[Svabinsky78]

Speaking of Dahlen, I really had no idea how good of a player he was until I took more of a deep dive into baseball history...

When Dahlen retired he held the all-time record for games played and ranked among the top ten in nearly every offensive category in major league history....not to mention that he was one of the best defensive short stops of his era...

I think with some of these old timers, they just fell into complete obscurity with the passage of time, tucked away on some shelf in the backroom of some abandoned warehouse....the GREATS like Ruth, Cobb, Wagner, Johnson, Young, Mathewson hung around/withstood the test of time, but many others fell into obscurity....

I read somewhere that he did not fare well on the ballot early on, in large part, because of his cantankerous personality....and as more time passed, he just fell into obscurity as the game changed, new superstars came on to the scene, offensive #s increased across the board, etc.