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Old 05-18-2023, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DaClyde View Post
Can you name a specific correction you submitted? I waded through all 7-8 pages of outstanding issues, and didn't see anything for Pre-War stuff.
Their S74-1 white, ad-backed silk checklist includes five players/silks that actually do not exist.

Peaches Graham - Cubs
Tommy Leach
Bugs Raymond
W.D. Scanlan (Scanlon)
Harry Steinfeldt - Rustlers

It took some years, but finally about 10-15 years ago I believe Bob Lemke and the SCD catalog staff finally started listing these five S74-1 players/images as "Existence now questioned." in their vintage catalogs. You can check with any serious S74 silk collectors, and they'll tell you the same thing, ad-backed white silks of these five players/teams never existed. And as additional proof, look at the images given for all the S74-1 silks on the TCDB checklist page. TCDB just so coincidentally has a posted image for every single white, ad-backed silk in the set, expect for these same five players/teams. And why not......because they don't exist. And for the record, the OBC site still erroneously includes these same five non-existent white, ad-backed S74-1 silks on their checklist as well.

Now jump over to TCDB's S74-2 colored silk checklist and you'll see it erroneously lists a colored silk for Happy Smith. No silks ever existed for Happy Smith in either the white or colored silk sets. Look at the photo image shown on the TCDB page, it clearly states the silk is of Tony Smith, not Happy Smith, and the image is the exact same one as on the S74-1 white, ad-backed silks that are listed as Tony Smith. Tony and Happy Smith are actually two different people, who both played for the Brooklyn Superbas in 1910. And for even more additional and irrefutable proof, look at the image used for Tony Smith's page in Baseball Reference, it is the exact same photo/image used Tony Smith's S74-1 and S74-2 silks.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...mithto03.shtml

https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...mithha04.shtml

And also for the record, both the OBC site and the SCD catalog checklists incorrectly show/showed a Happy Smith silk existing as part of the S74-2 colored silk set, instead of correctly showing the player as Tony Smith. Given the ease with which one can check the Baseball Reference site to see these are two entirely different players, this error on the S74-2 checklist is even more egregious than the errors in the S74-1 checklist IMO.

And the fact that no one really seems to care or bother all that much with S74 silks just shows all the more in how these checklist errors have existed for so long. If we were talking different sets, like T206s or '33 Goudeys, any checklist errors of these types would have been corrected decades ago.
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