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Old 09-19-2022, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Smarti5051 View Post
I always love when people cite Maddux or Jeter as players that did it "right" and never used steroids. How does any know this to be true? For all anyone knows, Maddux used steroids through the minor leagues and majors, but just didn't bulk up like Bonds. Maddux and others were not tested during their careers, and the only difference between Clemens being guilty of steroids and Maddux being clean is: (1) Maddux did not have a random trainer accuse him of using steroids - and profiting from the accusations; and (2) Clemens had a late career surge that fits well into a steroid narrative.
I agree with the rules of logic and, secondarily, the precept that one is innocent unless there is evidence to the contrary. One can not prove a negative, it is of course impossible to prove that somebody has never done an action during his life.

It was not a "random trainer", it was his personal trainer. As I recall there was also shipping records to his house. The feds even had his DNA on a needle with anabolic steroid still on it as well (https://www.forbes.com/sites/christi...h=de3e9657baa2).

Is your contention that steroids don't matter or that Clemens has been framed? Or both?
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