Signed books by either of them are really tough. I have Hare’s scrapbook while at St. Marks, which has numerous athletic photos and signatures of him. There was a great book on Orton written a few years ago called ‘The Greatest Athlete’ by Mark Hebscher. I have a few photos of Orton on my Penn website, to include his signature. Take a look when time permits
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