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Old 06-01-2022, 03:00 PM
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Default Please help settle a FB debate. Was the T206 Wagner EVER made with a Piedmont back?

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Originally Posted by robertsmithnocure View Post
If the “Wagner” was originally cut off a sheet, why is it considered trimmed and not just sheet cut? I always thought that trimmed referred to cards that were issued to the public in a specific size and then cut down afterwards.

Or, is it just semantics?

In this case, the Gretzky Wagner was not factory cut to begin with. It was part of a larger sample group with other cards in it, or was likely from a sample strip or factory oddity. The assertion of alteration here is due to the fact that it was hand cut to make it look like it was a factory issue that would have gone into a package of Piedmont cigarettes.

At some point you could certainly argue that all this is semantics — if the card measures within tolerance, which PSA claims it does. But the fact of the matter is when you have an item so nearly unique as this, and it has an established provenance, the real story comes out sooner or later. Those familiar with this card claim it is altered because it was handcut, and it’s in a slab that represents it as a factory cut issue. Then there was the whole slip up were Bill Mastro admitted that that is exactly what he did to it…

Either way, whether you consider that card altered or not - there is no disputing the fact that it is still the most valuable baseball card in the world.


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