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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

.....and you just proved my point. See how bad they were without Williams. Dude made his TEAM better, Altuve makes his TEAM better. Harper & Trout.....please. Harper leaves and his former team wins the World Series the very next year. Prima-donnas. You can have them.


This is real WAR...and you said it:

29
12
17.5

His last year before he left they were 93-59 and the year he came back 104-50 and in the WS.

Thanks for the assist Bob!!!!!

1942-93-59 (w/Williams)
1943-68-84 (w/o Williams)
1944-77-77 (w/o Williams)
1945-71-83 (w/o Williams)
1946-104-50 (w/Williams)


and actually I'm not too good with math, but I'd say his WARII is about 30 each of those years....Wins w/Williams!!!

Williams’ absence is certainly a factor in their poorer showing during the war years. But I’m sorry, it is not the only factor. Many other players were gone too because a massive war was on. Pesky missed those years, and he was a .330 hitter in that period. DiMaggio was gone. Dower missed 1945. Many of their other players and pitchers were too. Williams was great, but this is not a reasonable position to hold that he is the difference between 1946 and 1945.