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Old 02-11-2022, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Smarti5051 View Post
I think the situation has derailed a bit by the idea that I am chasing a case or I need to readjust my collecting goals if I cannot afford the condition I want. I am not a slave to the grade. I have one PSA 10 in my collection, and that is a Kobe card I pulled from a pack 25 years ago that I included with a bunch of similar cards from the same era last year. I intentionally exclude considering PSA 10 from my searches because I don't value the premium for the "perfect" card that looks to my old eyes like a run-of-the-mill PSA 8-9.

With regards to my specific collecting goals, I have chosen the "Top 200 Sportscards of All Time" on the PSA Set Registry. When I die, my goal is to have all 200 displayed in 4 x 50-count wall displays. To be clear, these cases will not be filled with PSA 7-9 vintage cards. If I die with an average above PSA 4, it will be a major accomplishment. I could make my life easier if I ignored the registry, but I don't trust myself to not get duped buying a raw card, and since I am displaying them, having them all in the same TPG holder helps the OCD.

In my quest for the Top 200, I am closer to the starting line than the finish line. When I started, it was "centered PSA 4 or better." However, the crazy market now has me looking at centered PSA 1s where the player's image is somewhat visible. It is alot easier to stomach a $300-500 PSA 1 than drop $2500-5000 for a PSA 4-5 right now and allow me to make some progress towards my goal.

Even with the enjoyment a "poor" condition card may give me in the short term, it would be nice to know an avenue exists in the future to potentially trade up to a more eye appealing version of the same card if my circumstances allow it.

Someone above scoffed at the idea of taxes being a consideration to avoid selling vs trading. I am not sure why. Just by way of example, my wife bought me a centered PSA 5 1933 Goudey Ruth #144 (my original dream card) when my daughter was born almost 17 years ago. I believe the cost was $2500. Hypothetically (truly hypothetical because this specific card will be in my collection until death), if I saw a beautiful "better" Ruth for $100,000 that I wanted to replace it with, I would sell my PSA 5 for let's just say $50,000. Then, I could use the proceeds to buy the $100,000 version. Well, in that scenario, I sell for $50,000 and immediately have a taxable gain of at least $48,000 (assuming my accountant feels comfortable we could defend the cost basis without any documentation). Even at 28% federal + 11% state income tax, that is close to $20,000 in tax liability from one sale. That means, I "net" $30,000 and pull $70,000 out of my savings to acquire the Ruth. By contrast, if (as I inquired) it was somewhat commonplace to offer a combination of downgrade + cash to improve the same PC card, I would have the new card in collection and $20,000 more in the bank - and the seller would be content receiving the same consideration. The only loser would be Uncle Sam and California, but they have plenty of wins against me over the years.

I am sorry my original question triggered so many ancillary concerns, but at base I was just curious if collectors/dealers were generally receptive to trade+cash requests to upgrade condition (regardless of whether the card is graded).
If you die it is not a major accomplishment. Everyone will do it at some point. But if your goal is the grade of 4 or better on your cards then good luck. Cards with better eye appeal can sell for multiples of one in the same grade with less eye appeal. Be careful of buying cards with crappy grades....ie poor eye appeal.

I focus on eye appeal more than a number given by someone most likely less qualified than I am.
I don't think I have traded down but I did consider selling a 7 and keeping a 5 of the same card. But in the end kept both. Just be happy and don't worry so much
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