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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth
You're cherry picking on Johnson. Don't forget 5 Cy Youngs, 3 2nds and a 3rd. Solid pitcher is just a bit of an understatement.
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How many would Grove have won, had the award existed?
Since some want to discount or dismiss win-loss stats, is ERA to be considered the best gauge? Johnson, against his peers, led his league in that stat exactly 4 times in his 22 year career. Grove led his league in ERA 9 times in his 17 year career.