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Originally Posted by SteveS
Also, of the people to whom I've shown it off of this thread, including a nice mix of baseball historians and "laypeople," most have ranged from it's plausible that it may be the Knickerbockers to it's definitely them. Only two people have been emphatic that it's not.
As for Snowman, I appreciate greatly that he has my back. I disagree that he adds nothing. He has pointed out actual, observable matches. It's one thing to disagree with them, but he has taken the time with no bias or skin in the game to look at the pictures and form an unbiased opinion. And I'll repeat what I said above. It's always fun to talk about baseball!
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Steve, I agree you've been civil throughout the thread and this has been an interesting discussion. Many on here have applauded your effort (as have I) and wished you luck in your endeavor, but almost none agree with you (just one does). Not sure to whom you're speaking outside of this thread, but there seems to be a theme. Let's sum up the responses on the alleged Knickerbocker image:
YES:
1) Snowman - "I'm definitely leaning toward yes" (post #33). I'll count this as a 'yes', even though he also said "I won't bet on the Knickerbockers photo". (post 96)
NOT SURE:
1) vtgmsc - I have no idea" (post 8)
2) GaryPassamonte - "I cannot speak to the identification of the men in the stereoview". (post 18)
3) Directly - if 100 experts were polled, you'd get 25% yes, 25% no, 25% inconclusive, and 25% maybe. (post 21)
4) jpop43 - neutral and informative (post 23)
5) BobC - no definite proof either way (post 111)
NO:
1) old judge - "I'm not drinking the Kool-Aid (post 4)
2) prewarsports - 100% of antique photography experts would date it 1870-1876. (post 11)
3) benjulmag - "I would be very skeptical of the reliability of the facial recognition in this instance". (post 28)
4) rhettyeakley - almost 0% chance (post 35)
5) bgar3 - "I would be very surprised if the market place agreed with you without an astonishing amount of additional information". (post 36)
6) sphere and ash - "I am not convinced the stereoview depicts 'six learned gents', let alone the Knickerbocker Club". (post 37)
7) drcy - "it does not appear to be the Knickerbockers". (post 51)
8) oldoriole - "I just don't see it". (post 100)
9) slightlyrounded - "this is a complete stretch". (post 68)
10) D. Bergin - "Knickerbockers 6 - Definitely not. Sorry". (post 109)
11) molenick - ""I lean more to the 'I need to see more proof' side". (post 80)
12) Tao Moko - "The KBBC is way off to me".
13) ThomasL - prewarsports knows what he's talking about. (post 152)
I hope I did not misinterpret anyone's comments. If not, we have 1 YES, 5 NOT SURE, and 13 NO. When to we have a consensus?