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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards
Which explains why Rose is 179th in career Avg...
Behind luminaries such as Manny Mota, Hal Morris, Rusty Greer etc.
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Touche' Scott. I can give you that, but in Rose's defense, he's also 14th on the all-time Walks list, and that definitely doesn't help his average. Also, most of those ahead of him on that all-time Walks list are considered HR hitters. Unfortunately, he is only 288th on the all-time OBP list, which doesn't seem to help him at all, but that is somewhat offset by him being 6th un the all-time Runs Scored list, which he wouldn't be if it wasn't for all his hits. Another thing to be considered regarding Rose's average is that he played in 24 seasons, the last 5 of which he wasn't even close to hitting .300 in any of them. Had he stopped at only 18 or 19 seasons, he'd be a bit higher on that all-time averages list. Plus, don't forget that Rose primarily played during an era when the overall player averages were a lot less than many other eras. In fact, his first 6 seasons in baseball were played before MLB finally decided to lower the pitcher's mounds due to the extreme dominance of pitchers back then.
And as far as home run hitters being so much better, if you take a look at the true all-time home run leader, after discounting the questionable PED and 'roid users, we're really talking about Hank Aaron. Aaron had 755 home runs over a 23 year career, but oddly enough, never hit even 50 home runs in a single season, which seems odd for someone who would be an all-time home run leader. In fact, during Aaron's most prolific season he hit a max of 47 dingers which put him tied for 80th on the all-time list of single season home run hitters. And that was his best year. The majority of his years, Aaron only hit 20-30+ dingers. So he really isn't much different than Rose in this regard. Unless you honestly want to give full credit to the steroid and PED cheaters.
So it seems to me that if you are going to disparage Rose, you're pretty much doing the same thing to Aaron.