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Old 07-02-2021, 12:09 PM
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Honestly there is so much gray area about Jackson and his involvement I dont think he is a fair comparison with Rose in these HOF debates.

I think Eddie Cicotte or Hal Chase are better for these debates. Both would be HOFers and their guilt, like Rose, is pretty black and white.

Ya I think Cicotte is a HOFer, better record and ERA than HOFers and as Cummings is in basically bc he was the first real effective curveball pitcher (if not inventor) the same can be said about Cicotte and the knuckleball.

Chase was considered the greatest 1B to play by many even well into Lou Gehrig's career in the 1930s.
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