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Originally Posted by Detroit58
I didn’t get a chance to reply to the Gilbert & Bacon comment. Gilbert & Bacon were photographers, not baseball card makers. They were photographers of well known 19th century people. Jim O’Rourke was a star baseball player who lived in Bridgeport CT. Not to far from Philadelphia. I imagine he spent some time in Philly not including the numerous road games over a long career. The photographers were at this address from 1886-92 if any cares. The Montignani dates 1888-92. I did the facial recognition on all my images. Try it, you’ll get there. Follow the hairlines. Follow the facial features. The chunk and comb over on the Montignani can be hard to believe, but do the work. It’s him. The comb over is another of his known images. O’Rourke put on weight in his late career. Where did he get the flabby double chin in his late pics? The fact there is an argument over whether 2 known images Orator Jim are him or not makes my point to an exhausted level. Who’s on first?
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On the Gilbert and Bacon-
Jay is an expert on 1800's player images, whether they're cards or cabinets.
Of course they took pictures of famous people, as well as thousands of less famous businessmen, tradespeople, and pretty much anyone who saved up the price of having their picture taken.
As has already been pointed out, while there may be approximate similarities in vertical spacing of facial features (And yes, some lines drawn in paint are only approximate... ) The ears are completely different. And different from the later in life pics.
Bmarlowe1 can explain that better, if I'm not mistaken he does a lot with identifying photos for SABR and maybe a few other groups.
On the Montignani -
That's a nice picture, but not O'Rourke.
The subject is wearing a fire department uniform, and as far as I can find out, O'Rourke didn't have involvement with the BFD until the early 1900's, a decade after the photographer stopped doing business.
And at that he was commissioner, not a ordinary member of firehouse 4.