[68Hawk]

I kind of understand where the heart of this question comes from....
If all of this place we share and talk about the hobby is 'stunk' with talk of fraud and wrongdoing, much of the pleasure is stolen.

The question is, does the endless dissecting of the problems do anything other than share misery and reduce joy in what should be a fun/pleasant distraction from Life's more serious requirements?

If the hobby set up a 'complaints corner', with a couple true expert and motivated hobby cops versed in law and available to give free of their time to the pursuit, where discovery of fraud was brought and was left in the hands of those same to execute whatever was really feasible, perhaps we could then shift more focus to the cards and what they mean to us??

I mean, what gets talked about here doesn't really do anything, right?
For real action, the knowledge needs to be acted upon.
Here it's really just kvetching.

I can understand why the OP and others might get tired of it, and why it's a downer to their hobby time. It's not because they don't know of the serious issues, or don't want to know, but because of the 'end of the earth' laments that trail each posting and thread on the topic.
And also because the idea of extending further questioning of ALL cards and condition regardless of accuracy of thought, so that only those precious few who think their sanctified collecting of lower grade cards can be true and honest, is plain tiresome.
For all the messed with nice condition cards, I as a hobbyist am sure there are innumerable 'right' cards that are beautiful and high end simply because they were put away at the time of collecting.

And yet now ALL these nice cards I"m being told are fake nice.
The leap from wrongdoing on one level to wrongdoing everywhere is just debilitating to any real joy in collecting, much as the OP is wondering.