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Originally Posted by rsst206
Hi Todd,
I dont collect these but picked up a large group many years ago.
but i dont see both Chases listed. When i go to PSA registry or website dedicated to discs only see front view version. Any info would be greatly appreciated. If you know of any tough or HOF in the set.
thanks Ron
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Hi Ron,
I am neither an expert nor a novice on these disks, and I know of at least one member here who has collected them extensively–maybe he could chime in. They are a bit of a side project for me, although I do believe the two I just won are among the most difficult for those pursuing a basic set.
By basic set I mean one of 129 subjects plus the seven variations. Each subject can be found with two poses, and most of the time the differences are rather subtle, as can be seen with your Bender examples. There is usually a full-face and thin-face difference for each player, although there are some more noticeable pose changes, Cinci and ChiSox players usually appear in both light and dark unis, and then there is your Chase, who is one of the few with a very noticeable pose difference (Lajoie is another). Each disk can be found in three different colors, and those sporting the full-face pose can be found in brown/purple also. Thus some might consider a master set to include at least all poses, or, gulp, all poses in all colors. Incidentally, the poses are aligned with the same shots used for the Sweet Caporal p2 pins, and those “large letter” pin variations match up with the second pose of the px7 disks.
The full-face versions of Px7 seem to have been printed first, although the Moran I just won bucks that notion, and they also appear to be more plentiful. The number pairings for the dominos on back might appear to be random, but if you follow these for awhile you’ll see that each player pose is associated with at most three different combinations, and duplicates of the same pose/number are found with such frequency that it’s unlikely all or even many of the 42 possible combinations were used for each subject. Still, if you add number combinations to your "master set", you are talking about a grouping into the thousands.
As for scarcity, I believe that generally the thin-face poses are harder to find–at least that can be said for the seven player variations. But since the pop reports don’t distinguish between player poses (other than the variations, which have different team affiliations or a spelling change), it is tough to quantify or draw many inferences–at least it is for me.