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Originally Posted by 55koufax
So of course you can dislike '64 - that is your personal choice. That said, your facts are incorrect. As a holder of this set in high grade who has been collecting it and upgrading, buying, selling 8's and above for over ten years here is what I feel.
1) There is definitely high # bonus value - way way more than '65 and other sets.
2) The Mantle may not be "prized" but it is hands down a thousand times nicer of Mantle than the '67. His righty pose with a bat cocked hands down beats the facial close up of a hung over Mickey in the dugout.
3) Maybe if you are looking for 587 cards in grade 3 to 5 it isn't competitively collected, however, right now, the top ten on the registry could not be more competitive with these '64s. Come June, Mr. Nuber's unbelievable #1 and 9.6 set up for auction. Just wait and see what those prices bring.
4) Pricing on 8.5, 9 and 10's have been insane for the past 6 to 12 months on the '64s. Prior to that, very affordable and somewhat easy to pick them up. No longer the case.
5) What is wrong with a "basic" design? As you stated, the '67 you and the world cherishes is extremely similar. I believe "basic" in the design world can be a very good thing.
6) The first 11 leader cards in the '64 set have the greatest star power on them of just about any leader cards ever. The combo cards are as good as it gets with AL Bombers, Tops in NL, Giant Gunners, Sox Sockers, etc. The second year Rose card is incredibly sweet and it commands a ton of $$$, and quite frankly is a thousand times handsomer than the lame head job on the '63 RC. The star cards are all there and look really great. The Koufax WS card is one of the greatest Koufax cards of all time. What an image! I could go on and on and on.
7) I suggest you save your "lint" for the '79 set. That one is just "killer". Much rather have it than a '64......
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Points 1,3, and 4 do not apply much outside of your "cherished" grade 8 and above.
2. I don't like the '67 Mantle at all either. Willing to overlook that for the rest of the set
5. Differing subjective opinions.
6. Mid-high grade '64 T Roses definitely command good prices, but "tons of $$$" is quite an exaggeration, and it doesn't nearly make up for the deficiency of anything near cadillac cards for the set . And I imagine that you are highly overstating the relevance of the leader and combo cards to most collectors. If you like them, fantastic. It doesn't make me wrong about how the value breaks down for the set (outside of your world of top 10 registry owners)
7. Now you're just being deliberately obtuse, snide, and overly offended. Obviously anyone would rather have a '64 than a '79, but it was clear from my explanations how some of my preferences were based on the bang for your buck.