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Originally Posted by Phil68
Leon,
Is Andy a member here?
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Yes, but he doesn't post often. For transparency I have known Andy for 15+ years and consider him a good hobby friend. And BVG is just as hard on the few things I have submitted to them as any others. The thing is, all of the TPG's should know that cards are liquid so the grade has to stand on its own. Actually the few things I have submitted to BVG were graded a tad harsh if anything. What we have seen with TPGs lately disgusts me, and most real hobbyists, not just in it for the money (though I have been accused of that and everything else under the sun

). I don't think I have any BVG cards in my collection right now. Their marketing of their vintage is far behind PSA and even behind SGC, so my cards are in those holders.