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Originally Posted by g1911

is your argument that dean accomplished nothing besides winning 30 games and this is the only reason he is in the hall? Or is it that if he is in, johan should be in? These two things are not at all the same. I would not vote for either personally, but they are comparable. Johan has a hall of fame argument. He posted an era+ of 129 or greater every year from 2002-2010, won 2 cy youngs, 3 era crowns, led the league in whip 4 times and more. Their inning counts are awfully low, but i don't think johan would be a terrible hall of fame selection, and is better than some pitchers already in in my book. Johan had 8 excellent level seasons (2002 was a partial season, though). Travis had 1 excellent season.


Albert belle i would vote for. He is not in the hall of fame more because he was a piece of trash as a human being, and a cheater in basbeall. he had this reputation before he was arrested for dui's, exposing himself to children, chasing children down in his car, and stalking an ex. I don't think outside of baseball problems should relate to a baseball hall of fame selection, but there is a lot more going on with the vote for belle than a straight statistical analysis. It is extremely misleading to equate him not being in with hack.

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