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Originally Posted by rats60

Dean won a MVP Award and was 2nd twice. I know you don't like WAR but he was top 4 in WAR for pitchers for 6 consecutive seasons. 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th ERA, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 4th Wins, 1st, 4th, 4th W-L%, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 10th WHIP, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 6th K/9, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd IP, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 8th Ks, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 8th, 8th CG, 1st, 1st, 4th, 6th Shutouts. Dean's adjusted ERA is 131, 42nd all time better than Carl Hubbell, Bob Gibson, Tom Seaver and many other HOF Pitchers. He had at a minimum 6 HOF quality seasons.

Hack Wilson has a career OPS+ 144, 48th all time, including 7 seasons of OPS+ of at least 129 (6 of at least 140) with a high 177. He had at least 6 HOF quality seasons.

OK, but why are they in? Is Dean in for those reasons or is Dean in because he won 30 games? Johan Santana has a higher adjusted ERA than he does and two Cy Youngs, 3 ERA titles to Dean's zero, three consecutive strike out crowns to Dean's 4, but he's not even close to being considered a HOFer.

Is Wilson in because of his record setting rbi season or not?

Wilson was not elected until 1979, so I highly doubt those numbers you just brought up jumped out to anyone, especially since they wouldn't have heard of OPS.