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Originally Posted by packs
Is that true, though? How do you explain Dizzy Dean's inclusion? Is he in for any other reason than winning 30 games once? I know he led the league in strike outs 4 times, but Sam McDowell did him one better at 5 times and he's not in the HOF. He didn't win 30 games either. Or how about old Hack Wilson?
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Dean won a MVP Award and was 2nd twice. I know you don't like WAR but he was top 4 in WAR for pitchers for 6 consecutive seasons. 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th ERA, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 4th Wins, 1st, 4th, 4th W-L%, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 10th WHIP, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 6th K/9, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd IP, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 8th Ks, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 8th, 8th CG, 1st, 1st, 4th, 6th Shutouts. Dean's adjusted ERA is 131, 42nd all time better than Carl Hubbell, Bob Gibson, Tom Seaver and many other HOF Pitchers. He had at a minimum 6 HOF quality seasons.
Hack Wilson has a career OPS+ 144, 48th all time, including 7 seasons of OPS+ of at least 129 (6 of at least 140) with a high 177. He had at least 6 HOF quality seasons.