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Originally Posted by Beastmode

I'm shocked collectors still think these trimmers were submitting altered cards to PSA without knowing the outcome. Please, our collecting community cannot be that dumb. 99% certainty these trimmers knew exactly the grade they were going to get, and PSA is knee deep in this crap.

If a trimmer is spending thousands of dollars to duplicate a factory cut to 1/64 of an inch, and years perfecting his skills, he's going to have an inside track to getting that bump.

Until Joe Orlando is quoted under penalty of perjury during a deposition, I'll assume anything coming from his mouth is meant for the collectors club kool-aid drinkers.

I have had that opinion for a very long time.