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Originally Posted by packs
I guess you don't care about winning either since you value winning so little. Let me ask you something, if its so easy to do what Rivera did, why is no one able to touch what he did on the field? Rivera's career WAR is almost 10 points higher than Hoyt Wilhem's, and still only 6 points lower than Eckersley, who was a starter for the first 12 years of his career.
Please explain how such a disparity can exist between one man and everyone else throughout history and why that distance means so little to you.
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I didn’t say I didn’t care about winning. The team was already winning when Rivera got around to putting his glove on. I’m not diminishing his skills or stats or WAR or ERA + or whatever stat they invent next. You are allowed to place higher value on a one inning guy just like I am allowed to place higher value on a starter. I basically lost interest in modern baseball during the steroid era. However I do recall John Smoltz being a great starter who had tommy john surgery. When he came back as a closer he had something like 53 or 55 saves his first year.