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Originally Posted by ls7plus
Klein and Ott were at least intentionally taking advantage of what their ballparks offered them, which is what they were supposed to have been doing. Walker and Helton, in contrast, were by comparison dropped off at a place where they could essentially play their home games in little league as full grown adults! What would Joey Gallo have been able to do playing his home games at the Baker Bowl? .228 and 50 HR's?
No one is "penalizing anyone" for where they play, but instead, are simply taking home/away stats as an additional factor in measuring how really good or great a given player ACTUALLY was.
'Nuff said,
Larry
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Okay, you took my elected HOFer examples and rewarded them for playing well in their ballparks (which included elevated home park statistics)...then you took two other players and said we need to discount their elevated home statistics
You seem to want it both ways. You may not call it penalizing, but that’s what you are doing.
The idea that is lost here is that a lot of players must have been helped by playing in favorable hitting parks. They aren’t being mentioned because they didn’t excel to the extent that Walker and Helton did, or how Ott and Klein did.
We could just admire the facts that these players (all 4 specified in this debate, but thrown in Harold Baines too) are special players who compiled big stat lines, higher than most others in the era they played in.
We don’t have to hypothetically dismiss Colorado hitting or defend Polo Grounds short right field at all.