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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How many did Larry Bird win? Julius Erving? Wilt? Oscar? West? That is one of the most absurd statements I have ever read. He is a generational player, one of the very few best of all time. Nobody can seriously dispute this. The only question is how high do you rank him. Among non-centers I would still rank Jordan ahead of him, and Magic slightly but not by much, but that's it.

You clearly have some issue with his personality but don't confuse that with his enormous basketball talent, drive and intelligence.

I do not like him personally, you're right, but I'm also judging his basketball abilities and IQ. I think he is overrated. I think he's more of a con man than a basketball player. He has manipulated the NBA to hide his weaknesses. Not to mention his game has always infuriated me, especially in his first stint with the Cavs. He overmatches EVERYONE, yet settles for 3s half the time. He ignores fundamentals such as defense and free throws. He helps guys like Draymond off the floor when he should just let them rot there until they get themselves up; whatever happened to a rivalry? Oh yeah - LeBron killed it. He is incredibly thin skinned and doesn't like when people don't like him.

LeBron is an absolute phony on and off the court. He is single handily ruining the NBA.