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Originally Posted by Tabe
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Originally Posted by bn2cardz
It really is hard comparing straight up stats without taking it into context. Walks don't earn RBI, but when it was Raines he would get himself in position to score a run.
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Walks do get you an RBI if the bases are loaded. |
Well yes you are right. Yet the comment I was replying to and even quoted to make it clear. Was referencing a man on second scoring from a walk. I was stating that yes in that case it is true a walk doesn't gain an RBI.
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Originally Posted by Tabe
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Originally Posted by bn2cardz
Raines did steal 808 times ranking him 5th all-time. This is ranked #1 all time for switch hitters.
For the top 10 in stolen bases he ranks 5th in BA behind Ty Cobb, Billy Hamilton, Eddie Collins, and Honus Wagner.
He ranks 54th all time in Runs Scored. His Runs scored 162 game average is 102 this would rank him 40th. Raines Stolen Base 162 avg was 52. Of the top 40 players with higher higher than 102 R/162 games only two have better base stealing averages. That is Billy Hamilton with 93 SB/162 games and Ricky Henderson with 74 SB/162 games.
There are also only two switch hitters higher on the Runs Scored / 162 games list. Mickey Mantle and Chipper Jones
Raines is the only switch hitter to have both a 162 game average of 100+ runs and 20+ bases stolen for a career.
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The fact that Raines was a switch hitter gets no bonus points from me. It's more of a curiousity than anything else.
The rest of your argument boils down to "He stole a lot of bases!" Yep, he did. |
Ok being a switch hitter gets no bonus points from you. You would be mistaken, though, if you think it doesn't get points for those doing the voting.