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					Originally Posted by Tabe  Or it could just be that Hoffman wasn't anywhere near as good.  That's sure what the numbers say. | 
	
 No, he wasn't as good, BUT, if you look at the top 10  of relief WAR all time Hoffman is 3rd in far less innings than #4 and 5 (Fingers, Lee Smith) 
 Billy Wagner was better on rate stats than Rivera (K/9 BB/9 and played far less innings because he chose to retire young, he has HOF  stats too.
 I agree that relievers should be held to a high standard, but adding Hoffman and Wagner would maintain a high standard.