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Originally Posted by rats60
I thought I was going to get an actual argument instead of just listing that in 21 seasons, he led the league in a few categories. I hope you realize that many of those years he was in an 8 team league, so 4th or 5th is average and all the others seasons you didn't list, he was also below average.
Range factor? Lol. That is real accurate. I would be curious how they come up that with basically no data. I will add this stat. Where as Dahlen averaged about 30 more assists per season than Tinker, his pitchers averaged over 100 less strike outs per season. Do you think all those balls that never made it in play are the reason why Dahlen had more chances? I doubt that Dahlen had better range than Davis, Tinker or Wallace, he just made a lot more errors.
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I think it's funny when folks use old antiquated stats that are worthless, then when corrected with modern, more accurate stats they resort to name calling and hand wave away the data. It's like arguing evolution with a religious fanatic....
New stats are better, more accurate and based on things that are important instead of the poorly thought out stats of yesteryear. You either adapt, evolve or stay in the past. This is the way of things.
your argument about K's is poorly thought out as the player still has to field those balls and if Dahlen made outs on 30 of 100 more balls in play then he was an amazing fielder indeed!