I have an OJ Silch Denvers that I always assumed was pose 419-3.
But now I don't think so.
(Well -- maybe now I'm really not sure. See second post below).
The example of 419-3 in Joe, Jay & Richard's OJ Bible has a ball clearly visible above Silch's hands. There is another example of 419-3 with the ball clearly visible on eBay at:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1887-N172-Ol...-/150378920951
Note: The OJ Bible and eBay examples are the Brooklyn team variation.
On my card, I can see no trace of the ball. I suppose this could be attributable to photo quality, but after looking at my card under intense light I don't think so.
Perhaps more importantly, my card has distinct waves of grass on the ground below Silch's feet that are not present on the examples of 419-3 in the OJ Bible and on eBay.
I know that the OJ Bible considers cards with / without ball visible as separate poses (see OJ Bible page 131 using Carroll 68-3 and 68-6 as examples). Not sure how added brushstrokes like the grass under Silch's feet on my card treated. So I thought I would raise the issue.
Any help appreciated. Scan of my card below:
Scot