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Originally Posted by edjs
A question involving T210/211. Since Jackson is in the T210-8 series, and T211s use images from T210-8, in theory, could Jackson be out there somewhere in the T211 Green Borders? Anyone else ever wonder about this?
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Ed,
Great question and one I have pondered for many years as I have collected both sets for over 15 years or so. In theory it is possible for Jackson to be out there, along with the other 38 missing T211-T210 sister cards or 2nd series or 2nd release as I like to refer to them, but it would probably exists as a 1 of 1 Proof like the Southern League T206 proofs (Osteen-Montgomery, Pepe-Montgomery) that were recently unearthed a few years back. (Perhaps Katrina even wiped out any chance of finding those proofs in Irby's buildings or neighboring businesses or simply they never got around to producing or distributing them...) Reason I say this, is on the back of the Red Sun's it says " 1 to 75 - Series One " indicating there might be a 2nd series release. Where this gets interesting to me is I have looked at the 75 T210's that coincide with the 75 T211's very closely for over a decade and there is an obvious scarcity issue with the remaining 39 T210's in the Series 8 set. While all of them are somewhat difficult to some degree, there is a group that are more rare than the first 75. We know that T211's were printed and released early in 1910 and so was T210 Series 8, but I believe there was a 2nd group of T210-8's released after the first 75 a little later in 1910, thus making them more scarce/rare and why a collector of the series 8 T210's will find that 39 cards are a lot tougher to come by than the other 75. (One exception would be if a collector can afford to buy a large group as they would potentially gloss over the difficulty. I assembled mine one by one or very small groups over a long period of time) This can get confusing as by blind luck or timing one might get a few out of that 39 card group, but over time one will discover that the bulk of them are exceedingly difficult vs the first 75. I could have put 4 sets of the 75 together of the Series 8 if I had been diligent over the last decade, but I just finished the 1st subset of 39 cards thanks to David McDonald generously mailing me the last card I needed (Crandall-Memphis). That quest for those 39 cards took me 15 years. You need not look any further than the T211 75 and compare with T210-8 75, then look at the remaining 39 T210's. Those 39 are exceedingly more rare. (i.e. Chattanooga group, several of the Memphis group, most of the Birmingham group, a few of the Montgomery and New Orleans group including Jackson) This only became clear to me after several years and in particular the last few years. My theory may be wrong or off a little on that 39, but I know they are more rare and near impossible to find. Hope this makes some sense.... While not likely to find a Jackson, my bet is it was going to be produced like it was in the T210-8 group, but they never printed/distributed a 2nd series /2nd release of T211's. One other bit of information regarding distribution of the T210's and T211's is the Southern Association had 8 teams and Little Rock was one of them, but that team was sold and became Chattanooga, so while the other 7 teams (Atlanta, New Orleans, Montgomery, Mobile, Nashville, Memphis, Birmingham) were in the Southern Association, Chattanooga joined later after the sale. Coincidentally, Chattanooga is the only team where I show all 10 of the cards to be in that 39. The other teams have partial or no representative in that 39 cards. (2nd series or 2nd release, etc.) --- Apologies for the long winded reply
Now, if you have read this far, then you are generally interested. If you haven't, I don't blame you. It's way down South in the weeds.