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Old 12-04-2013, 10:42 AM
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This one's a bit difficult.

First, I'm not familiar with these, does a pinhole vs a mass of creases make a huge difference in price? They're about equal to me, but if the issue is prone to that sort of hole which sounds like a poorly applied staple, then maybe unstapled but creased would be more desirable.

The scans weren't great. Not even close. Even zoomed in I couldn't see the damage, aside from the scrapbook damage.

But to me, a 10 is going to have some sort of major problem. So I might ask exactly what the problem is.

The other examples, both real and hypothetical don't work for me as they're not quite comparable. The torn program is pretty obviously a bad deal, the hypothetical card with a tear and seller only saying "no holes" when asked about holes is closer, but there the question was asked and only answering the specific question would be pretty sneaky.

When selling I typically went with good scans or pictures, and a brief description. If someone wanted more details I'd do my best to answer.

Also a poor example, but I had a similar issue with an ebay item. A block of four stamps, that turned out to not actually be a block. I waited a day before calling the seller, and realized that because of condition I'd actually make money if I sold them individually. But I called him anyway since the helper had certainly made a misleading scan and listing and I figured he should know. He didn't seem all that interested. (Big seller, with loads of lots and staff)

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Originally Posted by vargha View Post
To your main points, did you even look at the scans? I provided a direct link to the lot on the very first post. Based on their appearances, did they look too good to be 1's? And lastly, are you now introducing intelligence as a factor for disclosure? If so, how un-smart would a person need to be to place some responsibility at the feet of the seller?
Yeah, if you were gambling that the cards were undergraded and might do better a second time around or graded with another company I can see some disappointment. And maybe some reluctance to ask since that might be added to the description if it looked correct.
Nothing against gambling on grades, but sometimes it doesn't work out, and that's on the buyer if they don't ask. (I've taken a chance on a few graded cards and more ungraded, won a few lost a few, that's the breaks.)

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