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Old 11-10-2013, 07:58 AM
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Sorry if you feel like i'm digging into your 'past'. i'm just looking at some of the completed sales. Your screen shot of the 79 Munson pack is an example of what i'm getting at.

that cert# is 19361330. Checking the PSA cert validation tool and going backward a few numbers you can see what other packs were graded at the same time. Cert#19361327 is a 78 PSA 9 pack with Molitor/Trammell on top. Using your logic on what card should be on top, that card can be on top.

Whether it came from the factory that way and is untampered, I have no idea but at least according to your logic it can be on top. But they were graded at the same time. You sold that pack on 4/10/12 for $349.

So, you were creating those tampered packs (Munson pack) with no intention of selling them to see if they can get past PSA (your words). But, two months later (5/12 and 6/12) you were selling packs according to your own logic you knew were bad.

That was the point of my question above. Take away all the points about you helping the hobby and just answer....did you sell packs that you knew were tampered with? The timeline above suggests you did.

You may have points about what Steve/PSA did. The 'other side' may have points about your contribution to the problem. I'll probably never know enough to know 100% but it seems like you sold bad packs and knew it. For now, that's all i'm trying to figure out.

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Jim
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