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Old 08-24-2013, 06:26 PM
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Greg Schwartz
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Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby View Post
Greg,

That's probably a very accurate assessment of what work has been done. Clearly all of the surface damage to the paper stock, especially on the back edges has been flattened out. But what in my opinion should have raised red flags to any grader is that the upper frayed corners are squared off, which clearly isn't natural wear for a low grade card.

Yes, it would be great if law enforcement cuffed and stuffed some of these low-lifes, but on the other hand if PSA was competent in detecting these significant card alterations, the card doctors would be out of business and move on to some other means of making money.

Yes, I agree with you that it appears the card doctors have a "no card left behind" mentality. If money can be made on a card, regardless of the condition, then as this thread has revealed, cards will be worked on to increase their value. This debunks the myth that buying low grade cards is safe hedge from being defrauded.
Dan,
PSA has a policy, sure SGC does as well, that if a card gives the perception of having been altered, it will not be holdered. That is the reason why cards with factory cuts but are below factory sizes do not get encapsulated, so yes PSA should have rejected the Gehrig merely on the appearance as it does not look natural.

Grading companies should be able to detect alterations but truth is many alterations that can raise a card many grades will never be detected when done right. Just like in professional sports the athletes using PEDs are 2 steps, or more ahead, of the guys trying to catch them. If guys are not going to stop altering cards and grading companies cannot detect them then that leaves it up to law enforcement to make some examples. Plenty of guys out there making millions a year messing with cardboard but seems shill bidding is the crime du jour.

The value of a card, not the condition, determine if it is a candidate for altering. Has always been that way.
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