[travrosty]

These marciano letters were being certed when both grad and spence were working together all those years ago. Then also separately between the two companies when they split.

between those two guys together they couldnt figure it out, but how many of these stories do we have to break before consumers wake up to the realization that these guys are not experts at this stuff.

Can anybody show me just what makes them an expert in boxing autographs?

How many wife signed liston's, wife signed fitzsimmons, manager signed marcianos, manager signed fitzsimmons, manager signed dempsey's, manager signed joe Louis do we have to see with their certs attached before the tide turns and people see a cert from these two companies alongside a boxing autograph and do the common sense thing and throw it (the cert) in the trash and get a real qualified opinion!

Now for the hundredth time in a row Joe O. will not make an appearance anywhere to discuss this debacle and to reassure collectors that they are doing anything about the situation to make sure these boxing blunders will not happen again. is he playing golf, maybe bowling, maybe surfing. I dont know, but handling these situations he is not! They subscribe to the "ignbore it and it will go away" theory to autograph authentication.