Bruce- Knowing you most likely won't come back to this thread to respond I will respond and feed the troll in you anyway. Many collectors collect for things other than the almighty dollar. Personally, I collect for many other reasons but with an eye on value too. If you had seen all of the alledgedly tampered with holders I have seen in the last 48 hours you would give pause to your ultra high grade cards quest. There are people actively tampering with holders and passing them off to people with your mindset. Good luck in the hunt....and btw, I will stick to my pr-vg+ collection and be happy all of the time. Here is one you won't find, let alone in high grade.
