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Originally Posted by Bocabirdman
A balk on a three ball count WOULD give the batter first base as a balk is called a ball.......
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Most balks I'm aware of can only occur when a runner is on base, and once the pitcher comes set. Most do not involve a pitch.. Once set, if you bend you knees, don't come fully set, take your hand out of the glove, step toward the plate, etc without throwing a pitch you're "deceiving the runner" hence a balk (no change in count). If you do something crazy and fall down, and the ball comes out, it may be a balk if a runner is on base.. But think this would only be considered a ball if no runners are on and pitching from the wind up... In either case the runner would reach first on "ball" four rather than on the balk.. Right???? That's how I'd understood it.
Please explain a balk/ball 4 scenario with runners and/or with no runners.. I'm very curious since I was a pitcher in my younger days.