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Old 11-25-2012, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tedzan View Post
Cardboard stiffiners inserted in Cigarette packs date back to the 19th Century. In 1887-1888 some genius was smart to place (or print) images on these 2 1/2" x 1 1/2"
pieces of cardboard of Sports figures, Militarymen, Movie Stars, Animals, etc. OLD JUDGE, GOODWIN, and KIMBALL were some of the first to do this.

And, recall that the Cigarette packs (circa 1909-1919) had 2 cards inserted in them.




Prior to the T206 era there were numerous Non-Sports premiums used for this purpose. Check out a NON-SPORTS catalog and you will be surprised what was available.




I have already reponded to you regarding this in my Post #16. Was I clear enough in my response ?
If not, I will try once more.



The T213-2 & T213-3 were printed and issued post T206 era (circa 1913-1919). The 1910 COUPON set was printed and issued during the T206 era (Spring/Summer 1910)
when American Lithographic was running their 350 Series cards. What else do you need to know ?


TED Z
Ted, no need to get hostile. As I said in the begining of my post, I've always "been on the fence" about pack stiffeners- and that I was "probably alone on this" meaning- I'm unclear about certain things.

I am aware of the non-sport issues, and I am aware of the "pack stiffeners" theory (I call it theory, no one else) and maybe they were "pack stiffeners". But, after you picking apart my response, I'm still not convinced that T213-1's were printed on different stock because "they weren't" pack stiffeners

I've read many places that T206 cards were printed "at the factories". Now, that's been changed to "everything was printed at the ALC". I thought, well, maybe there was some truth to "something" being printed at the factories, and it made sense to me that maybe some of the backs (later on in the series, 350-460) could have been printed at the factories, seeing that it's one solid color, one pass. Send the pre-printed sheets to the factories to have the backs printed accordingly. NO ONE agrees with me on this And I can't prove it. Anyhow, I'm just trying to point out to you that my OPINION is not usually the popular one So no need to get bent out of shape

And if no 10 count pack of Coupon's has been found, as you said, how can you be sure that's why they used a thinner paper stock? Still confused.......

Sincerely, Clayton
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