[travrosty]

i am not a paid service and neither is mark and these gloves were obvious from the beginning. did you see all the autographs mark posted above, how many did you get from psa???????????????

what more of a conversation did anyone want when i wrote emails five miles long explaining why it couldnt be marciano's siganture and psa gave no exemplars and no explanation, but of course it is always my fault and marks fault that these gloves are no good? why do i need to call for you to get it across that these gloves did not match any exemplars.

psa skates and gets off scott free and its my fault and marks fault that we were right! That's why a good deed never goes unpunished.

and if people appreciate psa's good work, i am sure they appreciate psa getting the weil manager signed marciano gloves wrong in a recent auction too.

the problem is that people do due diligence AFTER the fact when psa drops the ball and then need to pin it on somebody and its never psa's fault, joe orlando's fault, or steve grads fault. they do a great job, right?

remember, psa has brought you the following great authentications.

John l sullivan letter penned and signed secretarial letter.

bob fitzsimmons wife and manager signed autographs.

james jeffries, tom sharkey and corbett "signed" hotel registry all signed in the same hand.

manager signed dempsey signed photograph.

way too many joe louis "signed" photos and cuts to count that are worth zero.

75 muhammad ali signed photos in a row registered in their database as real that they wont authenticate as real anymore but they are floating out there somewhere in the hobby.

many sonny liston encapsulated and LOA'd "autographs" signed by his wife Geraldine.

An encapsulated Rocky Marciano autograph that is signed by Rocky Graziano.

A George Chuvalo autograph that they certified as Julio Cesar Chavez.

A so called authenticated signature of Battling Nelson on a photo of Terry McGovern.

this is a great job by them and remember that neither I nor Mark made these mistakes, so pinning these gloves on us doesn't wash. It's not our fault, we know boxing autographs, and I get emails all the time from authenticators asking for my help, and I don't need to call them on the phone.

call up joe orlando and see if he takes your call. see if he gives exemplars, and see if he will explain their authentication. they won't.

then come on here and say they do a great job. It's not my fault these gloves are no good and provenance is almost worthless this day and age as it can be easily manufactured. I have always been available to help, which is what I did, because it was a slam dunk and I explained my opinion thoroughly and just because I don't call on the phone doesn't mean i don't know boxing autographs. if you dont take my word or marks right away that they are bad, why do you take psa's word right off the bat that they are good? we didnt ask for you to take our word right away that they were bad, we wanted to prove it to you through exemplars, which we did, but psa's loa is so much more convincing that it is good with all the exemplars they provide?

ask mark when was the last time i called him on the phone?

Mark makes a great point when he says he knows how myself and him authenticate autographs, we take time, sometimes hours upon hours sifting through the largest exemplar files around to come to a careful decision. We don't know what psa does because to call a chuvalo autograph a chavez autograph is impossible in the world that me and mark live in. it cant happen because if someone doesnt know the difference between the two , they should be as far away from boxing autographs as they can be and do something else.

every time we have ever pointed out a bad mistake, the item gets pulled or there is no rebuttal from psa or jsa, we have had to issue no retractions. we are 100 for 100 because we dont go off half cocked. we take time to figure it out. we dont issue loa's like water.