Josh I don't think cycles are scarer than the Sov or Hassan backs. I had tons of cycles at one time, many of them raw. I mean a lot of them. Looking at the Wilhelm I stand corrected, haven't made it that far in my list yet, that it is a true sp along with Joss, dahlen, grant and a few others. So the cycle counts on them are scarce at best and yea those cycles on the sp's should carry a large premium to the pied 25 and Hassan backs they have.

It's nice to have a 205 discussion going again