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Originally Posted by ruth-gehrig
Just something I've never seen before. Circumstantial evidence at a minimum; perhaps more? Wasn't it always speculated that Mastro had the card cut? If so why is Lipset selling it uncut?? 
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I thought the Lipset one was the so-called Jumbo Wagner that ended up in a 5MC holder, but I could be wrong. I have never heard that Alan Ray -- who owned the raw PSA 8 before Mastro bought it -- got it from Lipset. I thought the known chain of custody ended with him.