[travrosty]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Truth is a slippery thing, Travis. Did you see any of the autographs you are labeling fake and real signed in person? If so, which ones? If not, with all due respect, your opinion as to everything you did not see signed is just an opinion, same as any TPA opinion is just an opinion. Unless I want to collect only what I personally saw signed, I have to rely on opinions. Since all we are really dealing in most of the time is opinion, whether an item "really really" was signed or not is unknowable and as such is entirely irrelevant to the market. Buyers like the TPA opinions. Buyers respect TPA opinions. Buyers pay for the TPA opinions. They don't care about my opinion. Or yours, unless you are a TPA issuing a LOA. If I market that Holyfield signed card raw I might get someone to take a risk for $10. In the slab I can get a multiple of that all day, every day. Is the one in the slab forged or real? I didn't see it signed, so I don't know. But if PSA is willing to slab it, as a seller I really don't care.

Try this one on for atypical signatures: Look at the Lennox Lewis in the PSA/DNA holder. How can we explain its lack of resemblance to the one below that I got myself at a promotional appearance for the Klitschko fight?

PSA version:



Card I got signed personally:



I can sell or trade the PSA version all day long; mine isn't worth a plugged nickel, though I enjoy it immensely since it reminds of me meeting the champ.

there is so much wrong with everything you said i cant even start.