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Old 06-02-2012, 07:31 PM
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Wow. I must have missed something.

Dan, I've met you and know you are no fan of 3rd party grading, but this comes off as an attack at a couple of guys who have done some work to try to help figure out the monster. I've never met the guys from T206 resource, but have read some of their posts and haven't construed that they hold themselves out to be the end-all be-all on all things trimmed.

I can see a discussion of front vs. back combinations being relevant, but am not sure I understand why their opinion on trimming / altering is more relevant than anybody else here and I certainly don't see them classifying themselves as professionals in the grading industry.

Dan, I like you and will continue to do so, but I've got to ask, why the issue with these guys? Like I said, I guess I missed something.

FWIW, I do agree that if somebody starts a website on the premise of being a "resource", there is bound to be some feedback - both positive and negative. I'm no tobacco card collector and have no idea who is right about printing orders and sheets, but I've always enjoyed when supported hypotheses are shared and discussed. To me, that is what this hobby and this board should be about. Yeah, we gripe about this and that - many times with just cause. I guess I just don't see the "just cause" in this case. If it were a card that were being sold by them, I could see a potential beef, but calling someone out and labelling them as "experts" on card altering and asking their opinion based on only a scan seems a little far fetched... but again... maybe I'm missing something.

Personally, I'd think someone like Kevin Saucier would be more likely to be called out in this way - specifically because he has held himself out to be a guy who can detect and maybe duplicate alterations / trimming, but even then, I'd expect that someone like that would need to see a card in person in order to render a definitive opinion.

So, I guess that is a long winded way of saying, why the "professional opinion" angle on a scan of what may be a graded, allegedly trimmed card?
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