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Archive 01-27-2009 05:23 PM

T206 Polar Bear Backs
 
Posted By: <b>Phil</b><p>I have seen alot of talk lately about the T206's on this board, so if I have missed a post discussing my forthcoming question I apologize. I was wondering if someone here could provide me with some information concerning the Polar Bear Backs of T206. How rare are they? Were they only on certain cards? Do they command a premium to other backs? <br><br>As you can tell from my question, I am a Pre-War card novice, but I am wanting to get more involved in this sector of the market. Any guidance would be appreciated.<br><br>Thanks, <br><br>Phil

Archive 01-27-2009 05:36 PM

T206 Polar Bear Backs
 
Posted By: <b>Bobby Binder</b><p>Polar Bears get a slight premium because they are a fairly common. The hard part is finding them in NM condition because they came in packs with loose tobacco so they are subject to staining.<br><br>There is an excel spreadsheet that is available that breaksdown all the players and what backs they came in.

Archive 01-27-2009 05:47 PM

T206 Polar Bear Backs
 
Posted By: <b>Scott T</b><p>Polar Bear backs generally command a 25 to 30% premium over a more common back.<br><br>Some other T206 sources of info...<br><br><br>A board member, Scott Reader, wrote a fabulous ebook on the T206 set. <br><br><a href="http://www.t206.org/dl/InsideT206.pdf" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.t206.org/dl/InsideT206.pdf</a><br><br>&quot;Ted Z&quot; (this board) also knows a lot. If he says it, it's correct.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>

Archive 01-28-2009 07:09 AM

T206 Polar Bear Backs
 
Posted By: <b>Jamie</b><p>A little eye candy...<br><br><br><img src="http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt350/jboneparth/Cravath.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><img src="http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt350/jboneparth/CravathPolarBearBack.jpg" alt="[linked image]">

Archive 01-28-2009 07:24 AM

T206 Polar Bear Backs
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Two years ago, we ran a survey on the POLAR BEAR T206's and there are at least 252 cards<br> confirmed with this back.<br><br>If you want to see the list, I will try to find it and post it here.<br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Archive 01-28-2009 03:30 PM

T206 Polar Bear Backs
 
Posted By: <b>Phil</b><p>Ted, <br><br>If you could dig up that list when you have a moment, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for everyone's responses.

Archive 01-28-2009 06:01 PM

T206 Polar Bear Backs
 
Posted By: <b>Craig W</b><p>Hi Phil,<br><br>About 6 months ago I was inspired by the T206 subsets T-Rex Ted has put together and I decided to pursue an all Polar Bear subset. I'm currently at 220 of what I believe to be 251 (see list below). I would say that overall, for low to mid-grade, they are only slightly more difficult to obtain than run-of-the-mill Piedmont or Sweet Cap backs.<br><br>High grade, like the Cravath that Jamie posted, are extraordinary because PB's were packaged in loose tobacco (so they are often stained or have specks of tobacco on them). Of course, Demmitt StL and O'hara StL can only be found with Polar Bear backs and will run $1000 ea for a Poor grade!<br><br>Out of the 251, the only one that I have not seen listed (ebay, BST, dealer sites, auction sites, etc) is McGraw Portrait with Cap. Some that I have only seen listed once or twice include Dorner, Fiene, Howell Portrait, Nicholls. <br><br>Here are the 251 (if anyone has any additions, please, please let us know!)<br><br>Ed AbbaticchioBlue SleevesPittsburgh<br>Fred AbbottPortraitToledo<br>Doc AdkinsPortraitBaltimore<br>Red AmesHands above HeadNY Giants<br>John AndersonFieldingProvidence<br>Frank ArellanesFollow ThruBoston Red Sox<br>Herman ArmbrusterPortraitSt Paul<br>Jake AtzPortraitChi White Sox<br>Home Run BakerFollow ThruPhil A's<br>Neal BallReady to ThrowCleveland<br>Jap BarbeauBattingStL Cardinals<br>Cy BargerPortraitRochester<br>Jack BarryPortraitPhil A's<br>Shad BarryPortraitMilwaukee<br>Emil BatchPortraitRochester<br>Fred BeckFieldingBoston Doves<br>Jake BeckleyPortraitKansas City<br>George BellFollow ThruBrooklyn<br>Chief BenderNo TreesPhil A's<br>Bill BergenCatchingBrooklyn<br>Heinie BergerReady to ThrowCleveland<br>Bob BescherPortraitCincinnati<br>Bob BescherHands UpCincinnati<br>Lena BlackburneFieldingProvidence<br>Jack BlissFollow ThruStL Cardinals<br>Bill BradleyBattingCleveland<br>Dave BrainPortraitBuffalo<br>Roy BrashearPortraitKansas City<br>Roger BresnahanBattingStL Cardinals<br>Al BridwellCapNY Giants<br>Mordecai BrownChicago on ShirtChi Cubs<br>Al BurchFieldingBrooklyn<br>Fred BurchellReady to ThrowBuffalo<br>Jimmy BurkePortraitIndianapolis<br>Donnie BushStandingDetroit<br>Howie CamnitzThrowing (Arms Up)Pittsburgh<br>Howie CamnitzThrowing (Arm Down)Pittsburgh<br>Charley CarrPortraitIndianapolis<br>Bill CarriganReady to ThrowBoston Red Sox<br>Doc CaseyPortraitMontreal<br>Frank ChanceYellow PortraitChi Cubs<br>Frank ChanceBattingChi Cubs<br>Bill ChappelleReady to ThrowRochester<br>Hal ChaseBlue PortraitNY Highlanders<br>Hal ChaseDark CapNY Highlanders<br>Hal ChaseHolding TrophyNY Highlanders<br>Bill ClancyFieldingBuffalo<br>Josh ClarkFollow ThruColumbus<br>Bill ClymerStandingColumbus<br>Ty CobbRed PortraitDetroit<br>Ty CobbBat off ShoulderDetroit<br>Jimmy CollinsPortraitMinneapolis<br>Bunk CongaltonPortraitColumbus<br>Wid ConroyBattingWashington<br>Doc CrandallCapNY Giants<br>Gavvy CravathBattingMinneapolis<br>Sam CrawfordBattingDetroit<br>Paul DavidsonPortraitIndianapolis<br>Harry DavisDavis on FrontPhil A's<br>Frank DelehantyPortraitLouisville<br>Ray DemmittStandingStL Browns<br>Rube DessauPortraitBaltimore<br>Josh DevoreBattingNY Giants<br>Mike DonlinBattingNY Giants<br>Mickey DoolanBattingPhil Phillies<br>Gus DornerPortraitKansas City<br>Patsy DoughertyFielding (Arm Up)Chi White Sox<br>Tom DowneyFieldingCincinnati<br>Tom DowneyBattingCincinnati<br>Joe DoyleHands over HeadNY Highlanders<br>Larry DoyleBattingNY Giants<br>Larry DoylePortraitNY Giants<br>Hugh DuffyBattingChi White Sox<br>Jimmy DygertPortraitPhil A's<br>Ted EasterlyPortraitCleveland<br>Dick EganPortraitCincinnati<br>Kid ElberfeldFieldingWashington<br>Clyde EngleBattingNY Highlanders<br>Steve EvansBattingStL Cardinals<br>Johnny EversChicago on ShirtChi Cubs<br>Cecil FergusonReady to ThrowBoston Doves<br>Lou FienePortraitChi White Sox<br>Steamer FlanaganPortraitBuffalo<br>Russ FordFollow ThruNY Highlanders<br>Jerry FreemanBattingToledo<br>John FrillFollow ThruNY Highlanders<br>Art FrommeThrowingCincinnati<br>Chick GandilBattingChi White Sox<br>John GanzelFieldingRochester<br>Harry GasperFollow ThruCincinnati<br>Rube GeyerFollow ThruStL Cardinals<br>Peaches GrahamFieldingBoston Doves<br>Bill GrahamFollow ThruStL Cardinals<br>Dolly GrayFollow ThruWashington<br>Clark GriffithBattingCincinnati<br>Moose GrimshawPortraitToronto<br>Bob GroomFollow ThruWashington<br>Bill HallmanPortraitKansas City<br>Jack HaydenPortraitIndianapolis<br>Buck HerzogSweaterBoston Doves<br>Harry HinchmanPortraitToledo<br>Dick HoblitzellFieldingCincinnati<br>Izzy HoffmanPortraitProvidence<br>Solly HofmanBattingChi Cubs<br>Del HowardThrowingChi Cubs<br>Harry HowellPortraitStL Browns<br>Harry HowellStandingStL Browns<br>Rudy HulswittBattingStL Cardinals<br>John HummelBattingBrooklyn<br>Jimmy JacksonPortraitBaltimore<br>Hughie JenningsOne Hand ShowingDetroit<br>Hughie JenningsBoth Hands ShowingDetroit<br>Walter JohnsonPitchingWashington<br>Davy JonesPortraitDetroit<br>Tim JordanBattingBrooklyn<br>Addie JossPitchingCleveland<br>Joe KelleyBattingToronto<br>Rube KisingerThrowingBuffalo<br>Red KleinowCatchingNY Highlanders<br>Red KleinowCatchingBoston Red Sox<br>Jack KnightPortraitNY Highlanders<br>Jack KnightBattingNY Highlanders<br>Ed KonetchyGlove LowStL Cardinals<br>Harry KrausePortraitPhil A's<br>Harry KrausePitchingPhil A's<br>Rube KrohReady to ThrowChi Cubs<br>Otto KrugerPortraitColumbus<br>Nap LajoieBattingCleveland<br>Joe LakeNo BallStL Browns<br>Joe LakeBallStL Browns<br>Frank LaPorteFieldingNY Highlanders<br>Arlie LathamPortraitNY Giants<br>Bill LattimoreFollow ThruToledo<br>Jimmy LavenderReady to ThrowProvidence<br>Tommy LeachFieldingPittsburgh<br>Lefty LeifieldBattingPittsburgh<br>Paddy LivingstoneFieldingPhil A's<br>Harry LordBattingBoston Red Sox<br>Nick MaddoxFollow ThruPittsburgh<br>Sherry MageeBattingPhil Phillies<br>Billy MaloneyFollow ThruRochester<br>Rube ManningPitchingNY Highlanders<br>Rube MarquardFollow ThruNY Giants<br>Christy MathewsonDark CapNY Giants<br>Al MatternPortraitBoston Doves<br>Dan McGannPortraitMilwaukee<br>Iron Man McGinnityFollow ThruNewark<br>Stoney McGlynnPortraitMilwaukee<br>John McGrawPortrait with CapNY Giants<br>John McGrawGlove at HipNY Giants<br>Harry McIntyreFollow ThruBrooklyn &amp; Chi<br>Larry McLeanCatchingCincinnati<br>George McQuillanBattingPhil Phillies<br>Fred MerkleThrowingNY Giants<br>George MerrittPortraitJersey City<br>Chief MeyersPortraitNY Giants<br>Clyde MilanBattingWashington<br>Dots MillerBattingPittsburgh<br>Bill MilliganPortraitJersey City<br>Dan MoellerPortraitJersey City<br>Pat MoranSeatedChi Cubs<br>George MoriartyFieldingDetroit<br>George MullenPortraitDetroit<br>George MullinBattingDetroit<br>Danny MurphyBattingPhil A's<br>Red MurrayBattingNY Giants<br>Red MurrayPortraitNY Giants<br>Billy NattressPortraitBuffalo<br>Tom NeedhamCatchingChi Cubs<br>Simon NichollsBattingPhil A's<br>Rebel OakesFieldingCincinnati<br>Peter O'BrienStandingSt Paul<br>Bill O'HaraBattingStL Cardinals<br>Rube OldringBattingPhil A's<br>Charles O'LearyFieldingDetroit<br>William O'NeilPortraitMinneapolis<br>Orval OverallHands Face LevelChi Cubs<br>Orval OverallHands at WaistChi Cubs<br>Billy PayneFollow ThruChi White Sox<br>Barney PeltyVerticalStL Browns<br>George PerringPortraitCleveland<br>Francis 'Jeff' PfefferBattingChi Cubs<br>Jake PfeisterSittingChi Cubs<br>Jake PfeisterThrowingChi Cubs<br>Eddie PhelpsFieldingStL Cardinals<br>Deacon PhillippeFollow ThruPittsburgh<br>Ollie PickeringPortraitMinneapolis<br>Billy PurtellFeildingChi White Sox<br>Ambrose PuttmanFollow ThruLouisville<br>Lee QuillenPortraitMinneapolis<br>Jack QuinnFollow ThruNY Highlanders<br>Newt RandallPortraitMilwaukee<br>Bugs RaymondFollow ThruNY Giants<br>Ed ReulbachNo GloveChi Cubs<br>Bob RhoadesRight Arm ExtendedCleveland<br>Charlie RhodesPortraitStL Cardinals<br>Lou RitterFieldingKansas City<br>Nap RuckerPitchingBrooklyn<br>Dick RudolphPortraitToronto<br>Germany SchaeferFollow ThruWashington<br>George SchirmBattingBuffalo<br>Larry SchlaflyPortraitNewark<br>Admiral SchleiPortraitNY Giants<br>Admiral SchleiBattingNY Giants<br>Ossee SchreckPortraitColumbus<br>Wildfire SchulteBack ViewChi Cubs<br>Jim ScottFollow ThruChi White Sox<br>Cy SeymourPitchingNY Giants<br>Cy SeymourPortraitNY Giants<br>Spike ShannonFieldingKansas City<br>Bud SharpePortraitNewark<br>Hunky ShawPortraitProvidence<br>Jimmy SheckardPitchingChi Cubs<br>Jimmy SlagleFieldingBaltimore<br>Frank SmithWhite CapChi White Sox<br>Frank SmithWhite CapChi &amp; Bos<br>Happy SmithFollow ThruBrooklyn<br>Heinie SmithFollow ThruBuffalo<br>Fred SnodgrassBattingNY Giants<br>Fred SnodgrassCatchingNY Giants<br>Tris SpeakerBattingBoston Red Sox<br>Jake StahlGlove ShowingBoston Red Sox<br>Oscar StanageFieldingDetroit<br>Harry SteinfeldtBattingChi Cubs<br>George StovallBattingCleveland<br>Sam StrangStandingBaltimore<br>Gabby StreetCatchingWashington<br>Jeff SweeneyFieldingNY Highlanders<br>Jesse TannehillReady to ThrowWashington<br>Lee TannehillFollow ThruChi White Sox<br>Dummy TaylorReady to ThrowBuffalo<br>Jake ThielmanPortraitLouisville<br>Joe TinkerBat off ShoulderChi Cubs<br>Joe TinkerBat on ShoulderChi Cubs<br>John TitusStandingPhil Phillies<br>Bob UnglaubPortraitWashington<br>Heinie WagnerBat on Rt ShoulderBoston Red Sox<br>Jack WarhopBattingNY Highlanders<br>Zack WheatBattingBrooklyn<br>Doc WhiteThrowingChi White Sox<br>Jack WhiteFollow ThruBuffalo<br>Kaiser WilhelmBattingBrooklyn<br>Ed WillettBattingDetroit<br>Ed WillettsReady to ThrowDetroit<br>Vic WillisBattingStL Cardinals<br>Vic WillisThrowingStL Cardinals<br>Hooks WiltsePitchingNY Giants<br>Hooks WiltsePortrait with CapNY Giants<br>Lucky WrightPortraitToledo<br>Cy YoungGloveCleveland<br>Irv YoungStandingMinneapolis<br><br>

Archive 03-24-2009 05:21 PM

T206 Polar Bear Backs
 
Posted By: <b>Don</b><p>Just wondering if the above list is still accurate at 251 confirmed subjects.<br><br>Thanks,

Archive 03-24-2009 07:00 PM

T206 Polar Bear Backs
 
Posted By: <b>Craig W</b><p>Don,<br><br>I'm currently at 242 of the 251 and I haven't found any additions to the list. I still have not come across McGraw Portrait with Cap. And I'm starting to think I may have mis-marked Howell Standing as Howell Portrait, so Howell Portrait may be a no-print.


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