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Posted By: <b>Jim</b><p>I have another question for all of you guru's out there. One of the baseball pitcher card needed is that of Lou Fette and acoording to Beckett's the only &quot;card&quot; made while he was playing are 1936 and 1938 Wheaties box covers, the only other card is a newer 1990 Target. I do have one Wheaties cut out that of Carl Hubbell mainly just to have a good mix of different types of cards. Do you all consider Wheaties cut outs as &quot;baseball caards&quot;? Not only that, while the Hubbell is a good size and decent image of the player, the 1938 one of Fette is in my humble opinion not a very good image and having never seen a copy of the 1936 box cover of Fette, not sure about that one either. So I reckon my basic question is are Wheaties box covers considered &quot;baseball cards&quot;?

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Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>To me...they are not...too big in size. I'm sure others will disagree!

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>tomatoe or tomato?..... It's a personal question and each person has to decide for themselves on the Wheaties. I don't collect them but can certainly see how they could be considered cards. There are numerous cards that are cut from boxes so there is a lot of precedent for them being considered as cards. If I had to have a player and this was the only way to get one I would go for it...Good luck and good question!!

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Posted By: <b>Mark L</b><p>Definitely not tomatoe.

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Posted By: <b>Red</b><p>Wheaties picture.<br><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/42/Lou_Fette.JPG/222px-Lou_Fette.JPG" alt="[linked image]"><br>

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Posted By: <b>Jim</b><p>So Red is that one for sale? and it seems to be another one of those either way type questions... They are rather large but so are the Sporting News suppliments that I kinda sorta consider to be &quot;baseball cards&quot;

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Posted By: <b>Marty Ogelvie</b><p>At what point does a card become a poster? That's an awful big card but nice non the less.<br><br>marty

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>At which point does a card become a poster?\<br><br>When you are selling, it's a card.<br><br>When you are buying, it's a poster.

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Posted By: <b>Ken Wirt</b><p>Jim,<br><br><br><br>I think that a lot of the Wheaties cards of the 1930's were cut from smaller cereal boxes - at least smaller than a full-sized box. Seems like most of the cut-out cards are about postcard size, although a bit more square.<br><br>P.S. I only have one though, so I could be full of it!

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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>A Wheaties is enough of a card for me if I wanted a contemporary card of pitcher Fette.<br><br><br><br>Goudeys were big for there day, bigger than those predecessor tobacco cards, caramel cards, and strip cards. T3s were really big. Exhibits are big. M113s are 4 times as big as any of those. I'm ok with the Wheaties being deemed a card. Same for matchbook covers. And I'm ok with folks wanting cards that will fit in 9 pocket sheets. However, for folks who deem Exhibits too big to be a card, I hope they don't collect slabbed little cards unless they bust 'em outa the holders, those slabs are big, thick, and unwieldy.<br><br><br><br>

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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Were these intended by Wheaties to be cut out of the boxes (perhaps indicated by a little scissors and dotted line)?<br><br><br><br><br><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/mwieder" rel="nofollow">My Trade/Sale Page</a>

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Posted By: <b>Jim</b><p>I seem to recall the cut line on my Hubbell, but the above Fette seems to be the whole side panel, and perhaps in this case the whole box may be better off not cut and saved? I do not know, and as to what is a &quot;Baseball Card&quot;? I'll pretty much stick to Beckett's... For now though I'm going to have to live with the 1990 Target card. Thanks for the input.

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Posted By: <b>Chris Counts</b><p>It's not a baseball card, but it's looks more like one than the '38 Wheaties panel, which I've never liked, although I'm a big fan of several other Wheaties sets. It's remarkable that Lou never ended up on a card because he was quite a good pitcher for a couple years. I have a couple 1938 Wheaties ads (if you've never seem them, they're worth checking out) from Saturday Evening Posts, and Lou is featuring with several other baseball stars, and he's the only one not in the Hall of Fame today. I picked up this signed snapshot a few weeks ago. I'm guessing it dates from 1937 ...<br><br><a href="http://s41.photobucket.com/albums/e278/ccmcnutt/?action=view&amp;current=snapshot-fette.jpg" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e278/ccmcnutt/snapshot-fette.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Quite nice, Chris. Great photo!

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Posted By: <b>Rhett Yeakley</b><p>There are two other items that you can add to the Lou Fette checklist as well. Here is what I have for him...<br><br><br>Fette, Louis H. (Lou)<br>1938 Baseball Tabs<br>1937/38 Foto-Fun<br>1938 Wheaties (Ser. 10) 10<br>1938 Wheaties (Ser. 11) <br><br><br>I don't have him in either set but here is what the items look like in the 1938 Baseball tabs and the Foto Fun set<br><br>1938 Baseball Tabs:<br><img src="http://www.starsofthediamond.com/38baseballtabsdimaggio.JPG" alt="[linked image]"> <br><br>1937/38 Foto Fun:<br><img src="http://www.starsofthediamond.com/fotofungoodman.JPG" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://www.starsofthediamond.com/fotofunmungo.JPG" alt="[linked image]"><br><br>-Rhett<br><br>

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Posted By: <b>john wondowski</b><p>George Burke Photo<br><br><img src="http://i14.ebayimg.com/08/i/001/12/48/d8b8_1_sbl.JPG" alt="[linked image]">

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Posted By: <b>Mark Evans</b><p>A great debate.<br><br>To me, &quot;cards&quot; cut from boxes are first cousins of baseball cards, maybe &quot;baseball box cards.&quot;

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Posted By: <b>Jim</b><p>I didn't know about the pin but my check list (becketts #11), also list a Worch cigar that isn't listed on other cheklist. I did know about the Foto-Fun and lo and behold there is one listed on epay as we write. What are the odds... now if I could just find that Holsum Bread Davenport....

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Posted By: <b>Rhett Yeakley</b><p>Dave Davenport has been seen with a Herpolsheimers back (I believe Frank Ward owns/owned it) and with a Standard Biscuit (D350-3) back. <br><br>There very well might be a minor league Worch card of Fette, as he was playing with St. Paul at the time they were being produced, however, I personally have never seen one (not that that means all that much).<br><br>-Rhett