Advice Needed - Spooned Card In SGC Holder
 

Posted By: <b>jason</b><p>Hi guys, I just purchased a card in an SGC holder on Ebay. When it arrived I found to my dissatisfaction that it was clearly spooned (shinny areas over several wrinkles). <br><br>Is it acceptable for a grading company to give a card a numerical grade when it has been tampered with in such a way?<br><br>If, as I suspect it is not, and the graders have overlooked it, who do I go after the grader or the person who sold it (no mention about alteration in the ebay write up) ?<br><br>Thanks for your advice in advance.<br>

Advice Needed - Spooned Card In SGC Holder
 

Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Hi Jason- hope you are well. Why don't you just send an email to SGC and see what they have to say. That should work out.

Advice Needed - Spooned Card In SGC Holder
 

Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Jason - give Michael at SGC a call - I bet they'd be willing to review the card and if found to be spooned, buy it back from you.<br><br><p><br><br><br><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/mwieder/ForTradeSale" rel="nofollow">My Trade/Sale Page</a></p>

Advice Needed - Spooned Card In SGC Holder
 

Posted By: <b>jason</b><p>Thanks Barry &amp; Matt.<br><br>I'll do that. <br><br>I take it then that it is not acceptable for a spooned card to receive a numerical grade?<br><br><br>

Advice Needed - Spooned Card In SGC Holder
 

Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>spooned? how can you be sure it was purposely spooned and not accidently dented in that area? I have never heard of removing a crease with a spoon. A dough roller, soaking in water but never a spoon. I actually watched a guy use a pencil on a T206 Plank back around 1983. That worked well to my amazement at the time.

Advice Needed - Spooned Card In SGC Holder
 

Posted By: <b>jason</b><p>Hi Dan,<br><br>I am pretty certain it is spooned. I saw this done quite a bit in the 80s before the grading companies came to the fore. <br><br>The technique is as simple as rolling the underside of a spoon over the afflicted area to iron/flatten out the wrinkles.<br><br>I am sure it is not just a dent as the card has about 5 small wrinkles on multiple areas of the card. The shining (by product of spoon pressure) to the surface only appears right on each of the 5 wrinkles and nowhere else.<br>

Advice Needed - Spooned Card In SGC Holder
 

Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>No doubt people have tried to get creases out with spoons. I have a Dockman Young with a spooned crease. As mentioned you can tell by the shiny area of the crease. If I were a grading company I would count it exactly like the crease was still there. Nothing has been added or taken away.....but that is just me and I don't know how they will grade such a card. I know they treat an erased mark, with an indention left, the same way they do the mark, as if it were not erased.......regards

Advice Needed - Spooned Card In SGC Holder
 

Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>as suggested, I would give Michael Goldberg of SGC a call.<br>he has always been incredibly helpful to me and has top drawer discernment and judgment in these areas.<br>he is one of the absolute best in this business.<br><br>all the best,<br>barry<br>

Advice Needed - Spooned Card In SGC Holder
 

Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>Ditto. <br><br>_ <u></u> _ <u></u> _ <u></u> _ <u></u> _ <u></u> _ <u></u> _ _ <br><br>Visit <a href="http://www.t206collector.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.t206collector.com</a> for Net54 T206 archive, signed deadball card galleries, articles and more!

Advice Needed - Spooned Card In SGC Holder
 

Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>Interesting, I will try that tonight to see the difference. I have beaters I can destroy.

Advice Needed - Spooned Card In SGC Holder
 

Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I bought this at a National about 7-8 yrs ago, raw, and it's still raw. The upper left corner shows a crease and in person the top of the crease is shiny. It is very obvious it has been &quot;spooned&quot;.....<br><br><img src="http://luckeycards.com/pe92dockmanyoung.jpg" alt="[linked image]">

Advice Needed - Spooned Card In SGC Holder
 

Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>Isn't there a song called &quot;Spoon Man&quot;?

Advice Needed - Spooned Card In SGC Holder
 

Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>soundgarden.