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Posted By: <b>fred</b><p>i have a friend who has 2 fatima cards, they are rough, authentic at best but 1 has mathews and thorpe, the NY team, (1913 i think) on it and the other has mack and the philadelphia a's on it.<br><br><br><br>anyone have any idea what these might be worth? i will try to get a scan up of them.<br><br>thanks your your help<br><br><br><br>fred<br><br>[IMG]<img src="http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa211/baseballfan8photos/for%20sale/fatimafront.jpg" alt="[linked image]">[/IMG]<br><br>[IMG]<img src="http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa211/baseballfan8photos/for%20sale/fatimaback.jpg" alt="[linked image]">[/IMG]<br><br>they wiil be for sale on the BST board<br>thanks again

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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>depends on the condition....<br><br>but sight unseen, I would say - <br><br>Probably $100ish for the philly team<br>and $200ish for the NY team.<br><br><br>Could be less or more depending on eye appeal.

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Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>I am with Joe, just make sure they are original. Some wannabe Harvard moron was copying these on to photo paper and ebaying them.

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Posted By: <b>fred</b><p>he bought them about 20 years ago when he was doing local shows, so i don't think they are fakes, atleast i hope so.

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>If he bought them 20 years ago, they pre-date the just mentioned fakes. The just mentioned fakes were a conconction of the last about 1-2 years.<br><br>The Fatimas are real photographs on thin paper and have no dot pattern in the images. Other than the just mentioned fakes, all reprints have a minute dot pattern in the image-- visible under a magnifying glass.<br><br>Also the fronts of the originals are glossier than the back, the backs being matte like regular paper. Glossy front, matte back and thin paper are strong signs a Fatima's original.<br><br>Lastly, while there have been reprints, most advertised as 'original' Fatimas on the market 20 years ago were original. Reprints wasn't a big issue to worry about.<br>

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Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>david is correct, the only Fatima fakes that were around 20 years ago are cardboard cards and not of photo paper.

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>If the old reprints are cardboard, then it would be simple to tell if your friend's Fatimas are real. Paper versus cardboard.

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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>The way card prices are dipping, estimates of rough Fatimas which would grade authentic at best, mentioned above, are not realistic. I would say more like Phila. $50-60, NY NL $75-125.

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Posted By: <b>fred</b><p>thanks for all your help, as soon as i can get a hold of him i will try to get them scanned for the board to see.<br><br>thanks again<br>fred

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Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>i might b intrested in them 4 good price

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Posted By: <b>fred</b><p>bump for scans

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Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>Yikes, those are a bit rough. I get the feeling that $75 for NY and $50 for Philadelphia would be generous.

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Posted By: <b>fred</b><p>thanks for the help, they are rough and i have reduced the price on the BST board. i really don't know much about them. how many are there? are they just team cards?<br>thanks again for the help, this board is a great way to find out what someone has.<br><br>fred

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>There are cards for all sixteen American and National League teams. They're not too rare, although a couple of the teams can be a bit tougher.

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Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>whats your best price i am intrested in them

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Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>These have been loved lots

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>The NY Nationals is the second most popular of the cards in the set, because it not only has ever popular Christy Mathewson but is one of the few Pre-WWI baseball cards with Jim Thorpe. The most popular is Cleveland because it includes Shoeless Joe Jackson.<br><br>I think the Fatima team cards are nice cards/photos, no matter what the condition. They're essentially tobacco cards and team photographs in one.