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Posted By: Matthew R I beleive the card is a goudey wide pen (creamy variation). The creases on the card seem abnormally white, and somewhat of a weird stain on the back and front of the card. There isnt any signs of an odor. Was this a bleach job gone wrong or is this normal for the type of card? Obviously, goudey wide pens dont hold that much value. So I was just wondering out of curiosity. <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1222309273.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1222309253.JPG">

Posted By: Jeff MohlerI don't think it looks bleached. The paper color looks OK to me. It does look odd though. Maybe it was soaked? Jeff

Posted By: Frank WakefieldI agree that that doesn't look like bleach aftermath. Lots of the wide pens and fine pens were put in scrapbooks, frequently on pages that had a high acid content that would affect the cards. That looks to be more like what you have there. I don't know about soaking a wide pen or fine pen. Seems to me that there's a trick to it, kinda like developing a photographic print and then drying it. Soaking might clear that up some, or it may well screw up the front. Someone here should know about such... if it was a T206 I'd say put it in a glass of tap water, then get some paper towels ready for blotting, and copy paper and a stack of books ready for drying. FW

Posted By: Craig WSorry to hijack the thread, but does anyone see a resemblance between Gabby Hartnett in the original post and this guy below? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll71/craigw67217/DSC06003.jpg">

Posted By: J. McMurryIs that Leon doing his best "Mr. Mint" impression?

Posted By: leonthat's just wrong on so many levels......but hey, if you can't laugh at yourself what do ya' got? A BIG bag of nothing......As our young Steven Finley just posted in a thread....it's all about having fun. best regards as for the card being bleached....I am not sure...

Posted By: Craig WLeon, for some reason I think my chances of getting an N508 Dixie from you has just significantly decreased! And yes, the image was posted in good fun! Best Regards, Craig

Posted By: leonI never have an issue with folks poking fun at me.....when it's not with malice. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> On the Dixie's.,....don't count yourself out. I will have an update for you this evening.....I think I have 1-2 more,....though I think SGC labeled them incorrectly on the flips.....best regards

Posted By: MEWheatI have 30-40 Goudey Wide Pens. The R-314 (the 314's with borders) seem to be made out of a different paper stock than the borderless lithos (R-314 B), which seems to be thinner and glossier. The R-314's with borders seem to retain more dirt and finger smudges on the reverse. It doesn't seem like your card is bleached, but I am not an expert. Just my impression. None of my cards exhibit the "bleaching" or peculiar wear patterns on your sample. FYI, Tim Newcomb did an aricle in Old Cardboard #7 about this issue.

Posted By: DMcDIn my role as Net54 paparazzi at the Chicago National I cajoled Leon into posing for the "Moderator Dude as Mr. Mint " picture. I was kind-of building on the joke already established by the esteemed Mr. Wonka of the fleeting resemblance of the two characters (and Gabby Hartnett, too, I guess). I have never met Alan Rosen but by all accounts he is a Grade A okole puka as we say in Hawaii (puka means hole, you do the math), a "money grubbing whore", if you will. Leon Luckey, otoh and imho, is a stand-up guy. I have met him at two Nationals and have found him to be a friendly chap. I have bought cards from him at his booth and from B-L Auctions with happy results. I appreciate and admire his skills as Kindergarten Cop in running the Board. The weary sh!t he has put up with from the likes of Jay Behrens, Scott Elkins, Billy Bob Ballsitch, or whatever that troll's name was, to name a few offenders, would try the patience of a saint. (I would last about one hour in the role, long enough to ban all the hard cases, poor spellers and right wing nutjobs). These guys might see the photo I took and think the shoe fits; I think they would be wrong. Edited for clarity

Posted By: Frank WakefieldDoes it smell of bleach? I'd think you could smell that, and if you can't you might ever so slightly dampen a spot or two on the back, then smell for bleach. I think the card has not been bleached. And David, "Kindergarten Cop"... we resemble kindergarteners, don't we!