PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Rick McQuillan</b><p>Hi,<br />For the past few days I have been watching an ebay auction for a PSA 10 T206 <br />Jim Pastorius. The auction closed at $10,100 without the reserve being met. I wonder what london_venture had for a reserve? I don't know what the market price is for a PSA 10, but, Holy Cow!, $10,100 is a lot of bucks for a common T206.<br /><br />I'm interested in seeing what other think about this auction.<br />Rick<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=260276647853&ssPa geName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=016" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=260276647853&ssPa geName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=016</a>

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>pstratton</b><p>Looks...ummm...like a nice "AUTH" card.

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Lance</b><p>Rare=$$$<br /><br />I personally thought the centering was a little suspect for a 10, but a very nice card. A $1000 card and $9100 flip...???

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Bruce Babcock</b><p>I'm holding out for the "11."

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p><br />Alot of money yes, but still with a PSA 10 label and thats good enough for some folks. I think in REA or Mastro this card fetches 15k easily.<br />

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Mike Frohme</b><p>Agreed with both Paul and Lance - not a 10 with that centering. <br /><br />Wonder about the age of that grade - that looks like an old flip and a low cert #, though I'm poorly versed in those details.

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>pstratton</b><p>That left edge looks extremely suspect to me. It might just be the scan though. Bat ears?

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Marty Ogelvie</b><p><P>I think centering on a PSA 10 can be 55/45 which this card probably falls just inside of.. </P><P>the back can be obviously worse..&nbsp; I wsa thinking the same thing about the age of the flip.. but am not that familiar either.</P><P>Does anyone recall what the last common T206 PSA 10 sold for?&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>martyOgelvie</P>

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p><br /><br />Well I believe it was this exact same card that went for over $20k last year (2007) in one of the auction houses. If that is correct...no reason in REA or Mastro it wouldn't pull $15k now and the buyer of the card on ebay make a couple grand off it.

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Eric B</b><p>With a badly centered back like that, makes you wonder when they will start giving out 11's.

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Adam</b><p>Good point Eric, I thought the same thing, that back was off.

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I saw the card in person and thought it was overgraded. Perfect corners, great color, but should be a 9.

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Eric B</b><p>I think the real point is that a 10 should be darn near perfect. A better example would be easy to differentiate.<br /><br />And I'm pretty sure I've seen darker blues and greens.

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>I heard the submitter back in the day received a few 10's a few nines and a couple lowly eights.<br /><br />This card IMO is no better then a 7 with that reverse.<br /><br /><br />The front IMO is not even up to 10 standards.<br /><br /><br />Yes the corners are sharp.<br /><br /><br /><br />Steve<br /><br /><br />

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Rick McQuillan</b><p>There also appears to be a small dot above "the" on the back and a slight smear under the "I" in Piedmont.<br /><br />

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>yah, razor sharp <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>B D</b><p>looks like an 8 at best!<br /><br /><br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>1880nonsports</b><p>that the card may be one purchased for 20,000. (with or without the buyer's PENALTY?) and a current sales expectation/estimate @ 15,000. in a MAJOR auction. When faced with that one can - cut loses and sell - buy another @ anything less than 20,000. and average the price of the two <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> - keep card until market hopefully catches up. I tend to do the first when I can stop myself from doing the second. Sometimes I just get caught in the third situation because I rationalize with myself - so I guess those would be my hedge funds <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Al Simeone</b><p>I think maybe someone was trying to have a WHALE sighting but only the MINNOWS showed up!!

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Tim</b><p>How can that card be a 10 with the centering front and back?<br /><br />Just goes to show how the rarity of a fine specimen can override the standards in grading. Sad.

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>I want to believe. <br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>I still find it hard to believe that people can be separated from their $$$ because of "the" number. I guess there are lots of people willing to fork out a lot of money because of someone's opinion. The following was copied directly from the PSA web site:<br /><br /><b>A PSA Gem Mint 10 card is a virtually perfect card. Attributes include four perfectly sharp corners, sharp focus and full original gloss. A PSA Gem Mint 10 card must be free of staining of any kind, but an allowance may be made for a slight printing imperfection, if it doesn't impair the overall appeal of the card. The image must be centered on the card within a tolerance not to exceed approximately 55/45 to 60/40 percent on the front, and 75/25 percent on the reverse.</b><br /><br />That card sure looks like it's about 56/44 to me. But that's just my opinion.

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I would think plastic collectors would be all over this one...Who cares about the card?

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Steve Clark</b><p>Steve/Win Pitcher,<br /><br />Do you believe PSA's guidelines for a 10 is wrong? If so, do you believe that there should be a greater separation between a 9 and a 10 than between all other grades?

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Max Weder</b><p>For what my measuring ability in Photoshop is worth, I get a side measurement ratio of 35:53, or 39.7 to 60.3 on a scale of 100.<br /><br />Max

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p> and 75/25 percent on the reverse.<br /><br /><br /><br />The card in question IMO does not meet that criteria.<br /><br />The reverse looks, to me anyway, like it is 90/10 at best.<br /><br /><br />Steve

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Posted By: <b>ali_lapoint</b><p><img src="http://marklipinskisblog.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/drunk-santa.jpg">

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>ROBERT ADAMS JR</b><p>Well I,m glad he has perfect centering on his hat .

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Maybe Charlie can tell us why it sold for 'so little.' And why London Ventures continues to run hundreds of private auctions when it previously gave as a reason for this that it was due to a mistake.

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>Do you believe PSA's guidelines for a 10 is wrong? <br /><br /><br />Not wrong, as they can have any standard they choose.<br /><br />My standards is what matters to me.<br /><br /><br />Steve

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>PSA seems pretty variable on their OC designation...sometimes you see it...sometimes you don't?! This card is an 8-9...at best...to me...and may even warrant a qualifier.

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Steve Clark</b><p>Steve, I fully agree with you. There seems to be a fine line between criticizing a grading company's standard and our own standards. I do, however, that this card should not be a 10 simply based on their own requirements.

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>$10K wasn't paid for a common T206 that most collectors would value at a few hundred. The label was purchased for $10K. Dan.

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>Dan not sure if you realized it but the card did not sell. <br /><br /><br />The reserve was not met, unless of course you are saying it has sold<br />in the past for 10k?<br /><br /><br />Steve

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Marc S.</b><p>I think a major auction in the past, it sold for more than twice that amount. Goodwin perhaps?

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>Jeff, <br /><br />See. He's listening to you! He has relisted it, removed the reserve, and it is no longer a "private listing."<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/T206-Jim-Pastorius-PSA-10-GEM-MT-RARE_W0QQitemZ260279814514" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/T206-Jim-Pastorius-PSA-10-GEM-MT-RARE_W0QQitemZ260279814514</a><br /><br /><br />(Of course, after it did not meet reserve with a high bid of $10,100, the opening bid is now $18,000.)

PSA 10 T206 on ebay
 

Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Wow, I don't know how London Ventures figured out how to make its auctions non-private! Must have taken a real leap in faith for them to unblock their auctions and remove the reserve. Somehow I think they'll figure out a way to continue to get good prices on their cards, though.