A little help on T206 Piedmont Factory 42
 

Posted By: <b>B O'Brien</b><p>Hello all,<br />I just inked a deal that is bringing 13 Piedmont Factory 42 T206 cards to my door in the morning. Keeping my fingers crossed that they are real!<br />Does any one have a good place I can research these, or have any information to share here? I haven't been able to find out much looking online, other than that they are on the rare side of the T206 backs list, but don't command as large a premium as some of the others in the scarcity range. As always, thanks for the help, and here is a sneak peak at the cards that are coming. These little fellas are pretty rough, but the Chase looks like a money maker!<br />Bob<br />upperhandisforemost@yahoo.com<br /><br />Cobb (Red Port)- Detroit<br />Johnson (Throwing)- Washington<br />Doolan - Philadelphia<br />Davis - Philadelphia<br />Stahl - Boston<br />Snodgrass - New York<br />Chase (Black Cap)- New York<br />Elberfeld (Fielding)- Washington<br />Kleinow - Boston<br />Chance - Chicago (2)<br />Bender - Philadelphia<br />Mathewson (Black Cap)- New York<br />

A little help on T206 Piedmont Factory 42
 

Posted By: <b>Eric</b><p>I can tell you that the following two do come in the Piedmont Factory 42 back:<br /><br />Cobb (Red Port)- Detroit<br />Johnson (hands at chest)- Washington<br /><br /><br />Here is my one and only Factory 42 Johnson.<br /><img src="http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk264/crazylocomerk3/Trade%20Bait%20for%20T216s/1909-11T206JohnsonWalterPiedmontFac.jpg"><br />

A little help on T206 Piedmont Factory 42
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>All of your cards have ben confirmed with this back except for the following.....<br /><br />Chance (Chicago-yellow sky)<br /><br />Doolan (batting)<br /><br />Elberfeld (Fielding)- Washington<br /><br /><br />Nice find.<br /><br /><br />TED Z<br /><br /><br />

A little help on T206 Piedmont Factory 42
 

Posted By: <b>B O'Brien</b><p>As always great information. I am pretty sure you all saw these on ebay a few weeks ago, but just missed the 42's on the backs. I am going to send these in for grading and will post in the BST section to recover some of the funds and continue one poor man's quest to do a 16 back VG HOFer and notable player (for the expensive ones) group. Still keeping my fingers crossed!

A little help on T206 Piedmont Factory 42
 

Posted By: <b>Marc S.</b><p>I updated your list last time you posted it.<br /><br />I can definitively confirm Doolan batting and McQuillan batting for T-206 Piedmont Factory 42. I have not yet been able to confirm Magee batting, although Sherry should be theoretically possible.

A little help on T206 Piedmont Factory 42
 

Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p>Hi Ted,<br /><br />I have seen Chance (Yellow) with Piedmont 42 on eBay. No doubt he exists.<br /><br />Not surprising that none of the cards in this "find" are 460-only [except Kleinow (Boston) which of course is really a 350/460 RP subject that does not have any 350 backs]. Piedmont 42s are about 10X more difficult to find on 460-only subjects. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Chase (Trophy), Latham, Schaefer and Oldring (Batting) are the only 460-only subjects confirmed with Piedmont 42.<br /><br />Scot

A little help on T206 Piedmont Factory 42
 

Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p><br />Ted,<br /><br />There is a Piedmont 42 Chance on eBay right now!<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/T206-Frank-Chance-Yellow-Portrait-PSA-5-RARE-Fact-42-NC_W0QQitemZ220263287348QQihZ012QQcategoryZ31718QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/T206-Frank-Chance-Yellow-Portrait-PSA-5-RARE-Fact-42-NC_W0QQitemZ220263287348QQihZ012QQcategoryZ31718QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a> <br /><br />Scot

A little help on T206 Piedmont Factory 42
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Here are the confirmed 460-only Subjects with Piedmont 460/42 backs......<br /><br />Chase (trophy)<br />Devore<br />Kleinow (Boston)<br />Latham<br />Murray (portrait)<br />Overall (blue sky)<br />Schaefer<br />Smith (Chi & Bos)<br />Wiltse (portrait-cap)<br /><br />TED Z<br /><br /><br />

A little help on T206 Piedmont Factory 42
 

Posted By: <b>B O'Brien</b><p>They are on the rough side, but a pretty nice little lot. The Chase and Snodgrass are the lookers of the group (maybe EX). The rest should be most 1's, 2's and maybe a couple 3's. I am going to put the roughest Chance on the BST this evening an offer up the Doolan to a board member, the rest off for grading.<br />Thanks for the help guys. Does anyone have any historical information that I could read about these?<br />Thanks,<br />Bob

A little help on T206 Piedmont Factory 42
 

Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p>Ted,<br /><br />Thanks for the list.<br /><br />I was unaware of Devore, Murray (Portrait With Cap) and Overall (Hands at Waist) with Piedmont 42.<br /><br />Smith (Chicago & Boston), like Klenow (Boston), is a special case.<br /><br />With regard to Wiltse, do you mean Portrait With Cap?<br /><br />Scot

A little help on T206 Piedmont Factory 42
 

Posted By: <b>Jim Rivera</b><p>I have a Wiltse with cap and a Latham with Piedmont 42. These are both 460 cards and do come with factory 42 Piedmont. I can post scans if needed.

A little help on T206 Piedmont Factory 42
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks for catching my error on Wiltse....it's corrected.<br /><br /><br />DEVORE was reported by Mike Wheat<br /><br />MURRAY was reported by Dave Whipple<br /><br />OVERALL was reported by Brian Weisner<br /><br /><br />If this is all that there is from the 460-only gang, what do you make of it ?<br /><br /><br />Best regards,<br /><br />TED Z<br /><br />

A little help on T206 Piedmont Factory 42
 

Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>Bradley<br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

A little help on T206 Piedmont Factory 42
 

Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p>Hi Ted,<br /><br />Some food for thought.<br /><br />Setting aside Kleinow and Smith, of the 33 UZITS in the 2006 REA auction, the following EIGHT were 460-only subjects:<br /><br />Chase (Trophy)<br />Latham<br />Marquard (Follow Through)<br />Merkle (Throwing)<br />Schaefer (Washington)<br />Schlei (Batting)<br />Seymour (Portrait)<br />Wiltse (Portrait Cap)<br /><br />Let's compare this with our list of SEVEN confirmed PIEDMONT 42 460-only subjects:<br /><br />Chase (Trophy)<br />Devore<br />Latham<br />Murray (Portrait Cap)<br />Overall (Hands at Waist)<br />Schaefer (Washington)<br />Wiltse (Portrait Cap)<br /><br />Note that four of the 460-only subjects (Chase, Latham, Schaefer and Wiltse) are confirmed with BOTH of these backs, whereas 35 of the 460-only subjects are evident with NEITHER of these backs.<br /><br />Note also that most 350/460 RP and SP subjects appear with BOTH of these backs.<br /><br />Is it possible, then, that Piedmont 42 and Uzit were printed with a common set of subjects?<br /><br />Scot<br /><br />P.S. Adam--I believe Bradley (Batting) is a 350/460 regular print subject.<br /><br /><br />