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Archive 06-03-2008 05:12 PM

Mastro Lot 661 - Bill Bergen, Batting - Blank Back
 
Posted By: <b>Jon Canfield</b><p>I'm hoping the board can give me some insight as to Mastro's lot 661 which is advertised as a Bill Bergen, Batting - Blank Back T-206 with a very faint Hindu ghost print. For some reason, I can't figure out how this is a ghost print and just not a faded back. <br /><br />If, for example, the printer was printing off sheets of Hindu backs, then the all the printed backs would be facing the same way. For illustrative purposes, imagine 10 black pieces of cardstock being fed into the press. The press prints 20 Hindu backs on the page and spits the cardstock out, the Hindu backs all facing up. The next sheet goes through and the Hindu backs are printed, the cardstock is shot out and the Hindu backs are all facing up and so on and so on. The sheets are then fed through the printing press that prints the fronts, etc etc etc. It seems to me the ghost back should be on the front of the card. Even if you reverse the process and the fronts are printed first, then the 10 sheets are flipped over and the back is printed, the "blank" back would not be in contact with the other backs to leave the ghost print / wet sheet transfer.<br /><br />Am I thinking about this wrong? Just trying to figure out how a ghost print back facing the correct way gets on a blank-back card.

Archive 06-03-2008 05:34 PM

Mastro Lot 661 - Bill Bergen, Batting - Blank Back
 
Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>...With this one, too. I think it's a faded back. Maybe it was left in water or chemicals for a really long time. But it ain't blank -- there's something on it!<br /><br><br>_ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ _ <br /><br /><a href="http://www.t206collector.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.t206collector.com</a>

Archive 06-03-2008 05:49 PM

Mastro Lot 661 - Bill Bergen, Batting - Blank Back
 
Posted By: <b>Anthony S.</b><p>In theory couldn't a double wet sheet transfer (ie a wet sheet transfer onto a new card from a previous wet sheet transfer) cause a very faint non-mirror image?<br /><br />1) original card &gt;&gt;&gt; 2) wet sheet transfer card (reverse image) &gt;&gt;&gt; 3) a third card (faint non reverse image)

Archive 06-03-2008 06:14 PM

Mastro Lot 661 - Bill Bergen, Batting - Blank Back
 
Posted By: <b>Jon Canfield</b><p>Anthony - maybe that could happen albeit I am unsure if a wetsheet could stay wet long enough for a transfer to a transfer. I just think that scenario is so remote, it is unlikely.<br /><br />What I have a problem with is I believe this may be a relatively low-value faded Hindu backed card. However, Mastro is presenting it as a valuable blank-back with a ghost image (and a Hindu ghost to boot) without any clear way that I can see how their claim could be true.

Archive 06-03-2008 07:47 PM

Mastro Lot 661 - Bill Bergen, Batting - Blank Back
 
Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1212544013.JPG"> <br><br>_ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ _ <br /><br /><a href="http://www.t206collector.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.t206collector.com</a>


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