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Posted By: <b>Seth B.</b><p>This is by far the hardest pre-war Southern League set to come by. How many of these things do you guys think even exist? I haven't seen one up for sale in years. <br />Also, does anyone know the relationship between these and the T206 SLers? I know that Shaughnessy has the same portrait in both sets.

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Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>I have 1 card in my type set. They are impossible! I think Leon has cornered the market on them. Dan.

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Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>Leon and Keith O...they're definitely rare. Personally I think there are bunches of them stashed away in personal collections...not seeing the light of day very often...but they're there.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Seth B.</b><p>Dave at gfg.com had a find a few years ago, but I haven't seen more since. They seem like the sort of small regional issue that might suddenly appear in yard sales and estate auctions in NC or VA, but I feel like there are 30-40 out there total right now. What's weird, I think, is the variety of backs with so few different fronts, as if every one was stamped with a different back or something.

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Posted By: <b>Brian</b><p>Dan from San Diego way has a couple or more...

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I think there is at least one west coast collector that has a set of them. I know several board members have type cards from the set. Other than that I don't know of anyone that has very many. About three years ago there was a decent one on ebay and for some reason it didn't sell. It was from a very good ebayer and he did everything right too...but it didn't sell. I ended up giving a little more than 1k for it which I thought was a bargain....

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Posted By: <b>pat</b><p>if i remember correctly, a couple years ago there was a lot of about 8 beater cards on ebay of which there were a few e222 cards in there. i believe 3 or 4 of the cards were e222 awa or awh caramels. at the time i remember thinking the auction went for a ton of $, but i am sure the buyer knew exaclty what he was doing and made out great. that was the first time i had ever seen one.<br /><br /><br />edited for spelling twice, lol.

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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>of that lot was Dave (gfg.com)<br />

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Mohler</b><p>Dave Levin was the buyer. I think pictures of the E222s are still on his website. Two of the cards graded SGC 10 and two graded SGC 30.<br /><br />If I recall correctly, there were a bunch of T206s mixed in with the lot. I think the seller was one of the consignment sellers on Ebay who had no idea as to the true value of the lot.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Sean</b><p>I remember watching the lot sit around $3k until the last minute and refreshing to watch the price jump up to the $12k Dave paid.<br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/67et6z" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/67et6z</a><br /><br />This was also a good thread about the auction...<br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/67b7rm" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/67b7rm</a><br /><br />Edited to add the thread and add tiny urls.

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Posted By: <b>Martin Neal</b><p>I tried to purchase the cards from the seller thru an Ebay store in Lynch- burg. I drove there because I was concerned that the T206s were being damaged by removing them from an album. Indeed, the T206s (about 20 with a green Cobb) looked to have been recently removed from the album. All had paper loss with an area that was extremely light colored and fresh looking. While there, I noticed 4 odd looking minor leaguers (the awhs and awhs). Not knowing what they were, I figured they were at least worth a couple of hunderd apiece. The owner very seriously considered my offer which was about $10,000.00 less than what he eventually got for them. If I had only known....<br /> The seller also had two autograph books with at least a hundred autos all from around 1930 including Lefty Gomez, Joe Dimaggio, Rick Ferrell, Pepper Martin, Bobby Doerr). The highlight was one of the most beautiful signatures I have ever seen, a personalized Lou Gehrig. Very exciting for me, but ultimately bittersweet.

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>In 1999 I auctioned a Smith, Lynchburg that I graded VG-EX. It was the only one I ever had. I just checked the price and it sold for $656. Pretty funny.

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I think the "Pat" above is who I bought one of my first, if not the first, AWH from. I think I bought about 200 cards from you about 7-8 yrs ago. It was after I had won the E221 on ebay from you. I paid $200 for that AWH and it now resides in a 30 holder.....Is that you Pat, that bought the type card collection from an older gentleman and they were all in binders? If I remember correctly you owned an antique store too and your wife's name begins with a "C" (I don't divulge family info in public)? Or maybe I am losing it? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> That was a great collection you bought. I think you and I spent about 5-6 hours on the phone......unless this isn't you <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14>..... (it was this Seiber)and it was this E221..<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1209398604.JPG"> <br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1209398632.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Jeff S.</b><p>I dug out one of his Winter 1994-95 catalogs. Where's the time machine?<br /><br /><img src="http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/ladypaper/e222.jpg"><br /><br />And while I'm at it:<br /><br /><img src="http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/ladypaper/e99.jpg"><br /><br />I think there was nearly 600 Obaks listed in this catalog alone. Not to mention probably a few thousand T206's...

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Jeff- I bet the Smith, Lynchburg from Mark's list was the same one I had...but it looks like I overgraded it. <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />And Macrae says he's seen less than 20- most people haven't seen one!

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Posted By: <b>Mark Macrae</b><p>Jeff....Thanks for posting one of the pages from my old catalog. Most of those cards were placed in advanced collections (& probably still there). I would however, be happy to buy back any of them if the customer is dissatisfied. <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14> Great Virginia League issue....

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Posted By: <b>pat</b><p>leon- if you were referring to me, i never owned any e222s. never had an antique shop and never been married. my ebay id is cohocorp. you have me confused with another pat.<br /><br />out of curiousity, why did you think that was me?<br /><br />pat

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Sorry about that Pat. I guess it wasn't you. I thought it might have been you as his name was Pat too....and I thought your login actually sounded familiar....back to sleep on the couch.....