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Archive 10-26-2007 09:38 AM

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Has anyone ever seen any packaging for Just So Tobacco? How many board members have one? How many are known? I upgraded mine to this one several years ago, from Tik, at a National. I think Keith O has some? as I know he bought the one from me on ebay, after I upgraded, about 5-6 yrs ago.....<br /><br /><img src="http://www.luckeycards.com/personaljustso.jpg">

Archive 10-26-2007 10:18 AM

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Leon- the one you have is from the group of six I auctioned in 1998. And of course the original group had seven.<br /><br />The one I didn't get was D.T. Young. I think my consignor kept the best one.

Archive 10-26-2007 10:19 AM

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Posted By: <b>Bruce Dorskind</b><p><br /><br />We recall several articles in the early 1970's hobby publications on this series.<br />If and when we locate them, we will send a scan to the Board.<br /><br />We also recall two major finds; one from a local Cleveland collector who <br />sold his cards through a young Chicago dealer named Billy Mastro<br />and another large group which Barry Sloate auctioned...we can not recall<br />the date, but all one of the Sloate auction cards were sold to a single<br />collector, in California, (we think)<br /><br />We have two examples in our private collection including a PSA 6<br />the highest grade ever issued for a Just So.<br /><br /><br />Bruce Dorskind<br />America's Toughest Want List

Archive 10-26-2007 10:22 AM

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>Bruce- do you have scans?

Archive 10-26-2007 10:24 AM

Just So Tobacco
 
Posted By: <b>Preece1</b><p>Here is the Clarkson<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1193329483.JPG">

Archive 10-26-2007 10:55 AM

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Bruce- five of the six went to a Florida collector, and the sixth went to a collector in California.

Archive 10-26-2007 11:43 AM

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Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>I'm just hoping that more Just So card images are posted. Those are AWESOME!!!

Archive 10-26-2007 11:47 AM

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Posted By: <b>Andy Baran</b><p>I used to own the Burkett. It's history is well documented on the board. I don't know who owns it now.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1193334337.JPG"> <br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1193334350.JPG">

Archive 10-26-2007 12:21 PM

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Posted By: <b>Derek Granger</b><p>those are some absolutely gorgeous cards, particularly for the grades given...nice work!

Archive 10-26-2007 12:24 PM

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Preece1,<br />Thanks for sharing the scan. Great card!<br />JimB

Archive 10-26-2007 12:56 PM

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Mine has a little bit of pencil writing on the back...I forgot to erase it and get my 40 it deserves.....but it really makes no difference to me. This is an absolutely beautiful series imo.....and yes, I am biased....

Archive 10-26-2007 02:41 PM

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Corey is still working on his new scanner and it's idiosyncracies <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>....but is very gracious in letting us see one of the all time best 19th Century cards..........(this isn't a great scan)<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1193360804.JPG">

Archive 10-26-2007 04:23 PM

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Holy $#!T ! Leon, I think that one rivals your 4BH Kelly.<br />JimB

Archive 10-26-2007 06:32 PM

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Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>Just my personal opinion, and no disrespect toward Leon's fine card is intended, but I'd take that Cy Young in a heartbeat over the Four Base Hits Kelly.<br /><br />I've got a question for Corey about the Young. Years ago, I saw an ad in the SCD classifieds for a card that was advertised as an 1890s era Cy Young rookie card. No price was given, and the ad said something like "serious inquiries only." At the time, I don't believe the Just So Young was catalogued. I've always doubted the legitimacy of the ad, and didn't even bother to contact the seller. But I wonder if Corey can shed some light on whether that ad was placed by a prior owner of the Just So Young. Just curious.

Archive 10-26-2007 06:59 PM

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Posted By: <b>Wade</b><p>Please forgive my ignorance on this issue but I've never seen this Young before and it is AMAZING!!! Is this card "old news" and somehow I've just missed seeing the scans or is this a recent outing? Unbelievable.

Archive 10-26-2007 07:07 PM

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Posted By: <b>Darrell</b><p>Great stuff --- any other information on the cards are appreciated from this end<br /><br />maybe someday !!!!! -- THANKS Darrell

Archive 10-26-2007 07:20 PM

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Wade,<br />I believe this is the only known copy of this card. Just So cards are extremely rare type cards in general. The Cy Young was presumed to exist for a while since all the players in the set are from Cleveland, but the Young was uncatalogued until the late 80's I believe. Someone can probably fine tune the details here.<br />JimB

Archive 10-26-2007 08:56 PM

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Posted By: <b>Robert Adams Jr</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1193367660.JPG">

Archive 10-26-2007 09:07 PM

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Posted By: <b>Corey R. Shanus</b><p>The Young surfaced in the late '80's. To that point, while theorized to exist, the card was uncatalogued. It was part of a find of seven Just So's, the other six Barry Sloate auctioned some years ago. The cards surfaced in the Atlanta area, from a family that (not surprisingly) traced its roots to Cleveland. In regard to whether at one time the family ran an ad for the card, this is the first I've heard of it. I do know that when the cards first surfaced the find was featured in the SCD, so perhaps that is what is being referred to. But in any event I am not aware of the cards ever having been advertised for sale.

Archive 10-26-2007 09:23 PM

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>And I thank Corey for a very special opportunity for being able to handle the six non-Hall of Famers (don't think it would be appropriate to call them commons).

Archive 10-26-2007 09:28 PM

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Posted By: <b>Robert Adams Jr</b><p>I bought my " Dancing Woman " Just SO in an antique shop outside of Cleveland for $5 . Sold it recently on Ebay . I go back every few weeks on the off chance another shows up .

Archive 10-26-2007 09:37 PM

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Posted By: <b>Ken W.</b><p>I think that dancing woman is pretty sweet!!! Nice card too.<img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 10-27-2007 12:01 AM

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Posted By: <b>Jim Clarke</b><p>Being from Atlanta. I had to bring some of the group back home.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1193378460.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1193378482.JPG">

Archive 10-27-2007 05:07 AM

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Yep JC, those are two more out the six. And I believe that is the only known baseball card of Cuppy from any set.

Archive 10-27-2007 05:54 PM

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Since no one took a stab at answering the questions, as we are all so mesmerizied by the Young, I will guess there are about about 5-7 board members that have one/some. I will guess no kind of packaging has been found to date and there are 15-20 cards in existence. ...regards<br /><br /><br />

Archive 10-27-2007 06:04 PM

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Posted By: <b>Jay</b><p>Corey--Is it just the scan or was the "D" in "Cleveland" on Young's chest added onto the negative later? It appears not to be consistent with the jersey's creasing.<br />

Archive 10-27-2007 08:50 PM

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>jay- i disagree...i think "cleveland" looks fine & original on his jersey...

Archive 10-27-2007 08:57 PM

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Posted By: <b>Shawn Chambers</b><p>Jay,<br />I thing the "D" too is fine. Most of it is under his armpit. The crease on the sleeve is an illusory effect "creating" part of a "D".<br /><br />Killer image no matter what!<br /><br />Shawn

Archive 10-28-2007 04:54 AM

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Posted By: <b>Corey R. Shanus</b><p>It's not the scan (which is of a photo of the card). To me it doesn't look like any touchup to the negative was done.

Archive 10-28-2007 08:21 AM

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>it's exactly as shawn explained...

Archive 10-28-2007 11:38 AM

Just So Tobacco
 
Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>Corey, thanks for responding to my question about the ad in SCD. My recollection is a little fuzzy, but I think I saw that ad in the mid 1990s, so my guess would be that it was a scam unrelated to your card.


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